Did anyone keep their VHT Sig-X or EVH 5150 III?

[Hollywood]

RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT...he can do what he wants but he has more responsibility than the average poster like it or not. and you might want to use the search function.

I think it's refreshing that Chris doesn't fall in line with the attributes of the typical forum admin and remains "one of the guys" so to speak, it's what defines Rig Talk to a large degree for me. Keeps it real and doesn't give any particular favor to anybody...in my opinion.

I agree with this post! Damn Shiny, we are brothers in the cerebrium. Anyway, I know for example, over on the Splawn forum, Vom is the administrator and I have felt a whole ton better over there since he is also someone that can be talked to. He has been a really decent guy to me. Now in retrospect, I have several guys over there that won't respond, yet act suprised when you won't F'king go along with what ever the fuck they are saying. What the hell is up with that kinda mentality?? SO I say, Chris is accessable, SO CUT HIM SOME SLACK! He ain't perfect, but WHO IS????

 

[Anonymous]

He ain't perfect, but WHO IS???? [/quote]

 

[duodecim]

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You would only be right if your "tonetaste" was exactly the same as the amp designers'. I think the most important criterium in tube choices for designers is reliability even if that means tone suffers.
And I don't mean the choice between EL34 vs 6L6 f.i.; there aren't many amps that are plug and play with different powertube "families" so to speak.

Giga.

Yeah, especially the mentioned Diezels – it was clearly part of the design to be able to try different tubes and tube combinations in them. In which case, I imagine it's almost like an EQ or crunchy/punchy/clean selector, although I have never switched tube families in the same amp before.

 

[Giga]

[...]
You would only be right if your "tonetaste" was exactly the same as the amp designers'. I think the most important criterium in tube choices for designers is reliability even if that means tone suffers.
And I don't mean the choice between EL34 vs 6L6 f.i.; there aren't many amps that are plug and play with different powertube "families" so to speak.

Giga.

Yeah, especially the mentioned Diezels – it was clearly part of the design to be able to try different tubes and tube combinations in them. In which case, I imagine it's almost like an EQ or crunchy/punchy/clean selector, although I have never switched tube families in the same amp before.

Yeah, I've had a Herbert but never tried diff. tubes in it. The Flexi I had is also able to run with a myriade (sp?) of tubes and I tried a lot of them. That was fun....

Seeing that f.i. MM has different OT's for the same amp but with different powertubes makes me wonder how Diezel and THD went about to make one OT run with so many types of tubes. I can understand designing a biascircuit with enough range to be able to bias all those amps but the OT story is beyond me. But I'm a complete amateur when it comes to technical issues like that.....

Giga.

 

[Greazygeo]

I had a 5150 III for about a minute..didn't even take the time to do my usual preamp tube swap and bias check of which...I ALWAYS DO ON A NEW AMP!!! had a SigX for a bit longer and knew it had promise so...I CHECKED THE PRE TUBES AND THE BIAS!! Here's what I found...in V-1 it shipped with a Sovtek 12ax7 LPS.....Not good and usually only used as a phase inverter or effects loop buffer tube so..swapped em all out...onto the bias...Way off!! set it and the amp came to life...so..I had that one for 5 minutes...

The LPS is fine for any position other than the Cathode follower (so I've read).....I've used them in V1 of amps before and never had any issues. Pretty good sounding tube as long as you get a good one.

My UL shipped new with all LPS except for V1 ( and the at7 of course) which was a 12ax7Wb....

 

[meanstreet]

I got a 5150 III in May from MF on a scratch and dent for approx $1500. I've used it on about 35-40 shows and still love it and haven't had any problems with it. I get constant compliments on it from the band, soundmen and guitarists in the audience. Works fantastic for me and it's cured my GAS. Mine is loaded with Sovteks. I have tried a few that came loaded with JJs from the factory (along with a few others with Sovteks) and everytime I try one with JJs I can instantly tell something is different and it sounds like poo (IMO) in comparison without nearly as much gain. I'm running it through a Bogner 4x12 with V30s and love it. It is a bright amp and I run the treble and presence pretty low as as result, but it kills for what I like.

 

[van hellion]

i really like my 5153.. never liked the other ones but this guy is up my alley for sure.

peace
A Wood

 

[Bob Savage]

Id probably like the EVH more then the VHT. I think that dry, tght VHT tone gets tiring real fast.

Different strokes for different folks. I think my D60 rig feels pretty "juicy."

 

[jasonP]

RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT...he can do what he wants but he has more responsibility than the average poster like it or not. and you might want to use the search function.

I think it's refreshing that Chris doesn't fall in line with the attributes of the typical forum admin and remains "one of the guys" so to speak, it's what defines Rig Talk to a large degree for me. Keeps it real and doesn't give any particular favor to anybody...in my opinion.

I agree with you. +1 Chris is pretty straight up and tells it like it is.

Really like the VHT stuff. Sig X is an awesome amp and like it over the JVM. D60 and CL's are damn fine sounding amps as well.

 

[stephen sawall]

I like Ed and Chris a lot. As far I am concerned they are both great guys from what I have seen. I like everyone here, sounds crazy but it's true. I do not know enough to take a side, but I do feel there is some miscommunication/misunderstanding some place.

 

[Hacksaw]

Never got a chance to try the EVHIII head. I guess after reading all the BS and argueing over this head on the Splawn forum, I just never wanted to try it. When it came out several guys over on that forum bought the EVHIII and loved it, Well as you can guess that did not sit well at all with the chosen ones that could not bear to even read the typed opinions of the ones that DID ACTUALLY LIKE THE AMP. So just the task of reading all of their Bullshit just made me wash my hands of it. And dulled my interest in trying the EVHIII. That whole conversation and debate over there made more than a few guys permanently leave that forum. And that forum was never the same in my opinion. I don't say that as a jab, as I am still a current member over there, but the truth, is THE TRUTH!

you wound me deeply

Why? (I hope your kiddin!) there was some brutal stuff going on. Made a loyal guy walk along witha few others.. but then others later could post other stuff with no probs.. so was it the amps or was it more on a personal level with these folks? Just curious.

 

[Hollywood]

I would hope it was forum growing pains.

 

[shredi knight]

Thread started by Carl - Check

Soon, a huge argument ensues, derailing the thread - Check

Accusations, profanity, and rude comments are exchanged - Check

Carl is not at the center of, nor is the source of the argument -







I'm going back to the "16 years ago today" thread where things make sense.

 

[Anonymous]

Both cool amps but.....NEXT!!!

 

[shreder75]

Never got a chance to try the EVHIII head. I guess after reading all the BS and argueing over this head on the Splawn forum, I just never wanted to try it. When it came out several guys over on that forum bought the EVHIII and loved it, Well as you can guess that did not sit well at all with the chosen ones that could not bear to even read the typed opinions of the ones that DID ACTUALLY LIKE THE AMP. So just the task of reading all of their Bullshit just made me wash my hands of it. And dulled my interest in trying the EVHIII. That whole conversation and debate over there made more than a few guys permanently leave that forum. And that forum was never the same in my opinion. I don't say that as a jab, as I am still a current member over there, but the truth, is THE TRUTH!

you wound me deeply

Why? (I hope your kiddin!) there was some brutal stuff going on. Made a loyal guy walk along witha few others.. but then others later could post other stuff with no probs.. so was it the amps or was it more on a personal level with these folks? Just curious.

I am kidding, hack =) BUT, I will say this..why a thread that was posted over a year ago on that forum should be brought up here is beyond me..

people left for a few reasons..differing opinions, people who didn't care for 'dirty talk', etc, etc...some people left the camp completely over childish bullshit quite honestly...

I've gotten into it at some time or another with just about everyone over there..lol..whether it be about guitar players, tones, politics, people poking fun....but it passes, I don't make big drama over there and I still like posting there....

ain't no thang =)

 

[John4021]

Id probably like the EVH more then the VHT. I think that dry, tght VHT tone gets tiring real fast.

Different strokes for different folks. I think my D60 rig feels pretty "juicy."

The Sig-X is more along the tone juicyness of the Deliverance and not the Ultralead isnt it Bob?

 

[degenaro]

Id probably like the EVH more then the VHT. I think that dry, tght VHT tone gets tiring real fast.

Different strokes for different folks. I think my D60 rig feels pretty "juicy."

The Sig-X is more along the tone juicyness of the Deliverance and not the Ultralead isnt it Bob?

Not Bob, that said...the Sig is a lot like my D60, the D60 is a bit rawer in the power section, the Sig a bit more refined.

 

[Loudness250]

On my VHT the bias was too high. BUT, everyone knows now that on the first few the bias was too high. When I would play the amp on half on the master it would blow a fuse in like a couple minutes. But again, my amp is the 8th one built. The only problem with mine is a preamp tube shorted and caused a resistor to go. It happened one more time after that but I knew what to do to fix it and it's been great since. I kept it, it's fine! AND I CAN FULLY ADMIT THAT THE PROBLEM WAS PARTIALLY MY OWN FAULT BECAUSE I WAS USING A NOS PRE TUBE AND THAT'S A RISK YOU TAKE,EVEN THOUGH A NEW ONE COULD DO THAT TOO. Great amp! I love it.