Did anyone keep their VHT Sig-X or EVH 5150 III?

[degenaro]

Just a perspective with no dog in the fight...... your posts as of late and in this thread are coming off very condsending. The only reason I'm posting is somemone posted a comment about me acting like a dick not long ago and it helped me see that I was. Now Im not trying to start shit but your posts this time around are getting pretty hostile and maybe me posting this will help you rethink what you are saying and how you are saying it.

I think he's always been full of himself, but now he's actually making stuff up to try and make me look like a liar or an incompentent idiot??? I have no idea where that came from, but after 10+ years of being online, we should all be used to these types of cocky online personas.

Chris

Yet...you're the one that is concerned about me "wanting to make you incompetent"?
Get that chip of your shoulder, you ARE incompetent when it comes to tech stuff, as most of us are. I have no issue with that, but the fucking thumpzilla shit that starts fucking firestorms that is what I have an issue with. Take some fucking responsibility for your on-line clout that's what I'm talking about.

 

[degenaro]

You would only be right if your "tonetaste" was exactly the same as the amp designers'. I think the most important criterium in tube choices for designers is reliability even if that means tone suffers.
And I don't mean the choice between EL34 vs 6L6 f.i.; there aren't many amps that are plug and play with different powertube "families" so to speak.

Giga.

True. I actually agree with spending at least some quality time with an amp before changing the tubes. However, I was simply talking about checking the bias to make sure it's set where it's supposed to be.

Lets be really clear here...you checked the bias up because you thought that's where it shoulda been. You posted about it and I told you that it was too high. Subsequently your amp went into thermal shut down at the gig...now instead of complaining about "issues" take a look at the chain of events...
Point is I've done plenty of bone headed moves with my gear but I'm not bashing the makers about it...

 

[degenaro]

Yet...you're the one that is concerned about me "wanting to make you incompetent"?
Get that chip of your shoulder, you ARE incompetent when it comes to tech stuff, as most of us are. I have no issue with that, but the fucking thumpzilla shit that starts fucking firestorms that is what I have an issue with. Take some fucking responsibility for your on-line clout that's what I'm talking about.

Uh, I haven't done stuff like that in 3 years or so. So apparently, at least some of us CAN grow up.

You did it with the SigX...but whatever...you don't get it. You run a fucking forum, different fucking rules apply then to some one just posting. Just as you don't see me bash THD's competitor's on here.
I give up, it's like talk to a brick wall...

 

[ejecta]

Point is I've done plenty of bone headed moves with my gear but I'm not bashing the makers about it...

I've never seen Chris bash or blame VHT for something he did wrong. Give me a fucking break. He pointed out VHT's printing mistake is all. You act like just because he's the creator of this forum and posted his experience with some VHTs' that he's bringing down VHT or something by killing VHT sales. Running a forum or not, he has as much right to post anything he wants about any amp line he wishes IMHO.

 

[degenaro]

Point is I've done plenty of bone headed moves with my gear but I'm not bashing the makers about it...

I've never seen Chris bash or blame VHT for something he did wrong. Give me a fucking break. He pointed out VHT's printing mistake is all. You act like just because he's the creator of this forum and posted his experience with some VHTs' that he's bringing down VHT or something by killing VHT sales. Running a forum or not, he has as much right to post anything he wants about any amp line he wishes IMHO.

that's the thing..>RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT...he can do what he wants but he has more responsibility than the average poster like it or not. and you might want to use the search function.

 

[ejecta]

Point is I've done plenty of bone headed moves with my gear but I'm not bashing the makers about it...

I've never seen Chris bash or blame VHT for something he did wrong. Give me a fucking break. He pointed out VHT's printing mistake is all. You act like just because he's the creator of this forum and posted his experience with some VHTs' that he's bringing down VHT or something by killing VHT sales. Running a forum or not, he has as much right to post anything he wants about any amp line he wishes IMHO.

that's the thing..>RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT...he can do what he wants but he has more responsibility than the average poster like it or not. and you might want to use the search function.

Dont need to search, Ive been a member here long enough to know what people do dont do. Chris hasnt been the starting shit type in LONG time. Even at that Chris and I had a Sig X at the same time so I remember what you are talking about well. Chris never blamed VHT for anything other than not catching the misprint. No big deal IMHO. I know he is now skittish about owning VHT but it wasnt jsut about the SigX issue but others as well. But what the hell???? There are several amp lines I feel that way about. Just because I dont own a forum my opinon doesnt have the same clout as Chris's??? Dude that idea is so fucking far off the map of all thats reasonable it laughable.

Chris's opinion is like anyone elses, nothing more nothing less.

 

[degenaro]

Dont need to search, Ive been a member here long enough to know what people do dont do. Chris hasnt been the starting shit type in LONG time. Even at that Chris and I had a Sig X at the same time so I remember what you are talking about well. Chris never blamed VHT for anything other than not catching the misprint. No big deal IMHO. I know he is now skittish about owning VHT but it wasnt jsut about the SigX issue but others as well. But what the hell???? There are several amp lines I feel that way about. Just because I dont own a forum my opinon doesnt have the same clout as Chris's??? Dude that idea is so fucking far off the map of all thats reasonable it laughable.

Chris's opinion is like anyone elses, nothing more nothing less.

i was referring to Chris' clout...

 

[ejecta]

Dont need to search, Ive been a member here long enough to know what people do dont do. Chris hasnt been the starting shit type in LONG time. Even at that Chris and I had a Sig X at the same time so I remember what you are talking about well. Chris never blamed VHT for anything other than not catching the misprint. No big deal IMHO. I know he is now skittish about owning VHT but it wasnt jsut about the SigX issue but others as well. But what the hell???? There are several amp lines I feel that way about. Just because I dont own a forum my opinon doesnt have the same clout as Chris's??? Dude that idea is so fucking far off the map of all thats reasonable it laughable.

Chris's opinion is like anyone elses, nothing more nothing less.

i was referring to Chris' clout...

Whatever dude. Clout effects the weight of opinions. Owning a site has nothing to do with adding weight to opinions. If what you say were true everyone would have an Axe FX and no tube amps as the opinion of the ever so full of clout Scott would rule all. You've made huge moutain of shit over nothing because you think so much of your "hang".

 

[degenaro]

Dont need to search, Ive been a member here long enough to know what people do dont do. Chris hasnt been the starting shit type in LONG time. Even at that Chris and I had a Sig X at the same time so I remember what you are talking about well. Chris never blamed VHT for anything other than not catching the misprint. No big deal IMHO. I know he is now skittish about owning VHT but it wasnt jsut about the SigX issue but others as well. But what the hell???? There are several amp lines I feel that way about. Just because I dont own a forum my opinon doesnt have the same clout as Chris's??? Dude that idea is so fucking far off the map of all thats reasonable it laughable.

Chris's opinion is like anyone elses, nothing more nothing less.

i was referring to Chris' clout...

Whatever dude. Clout effects the weight of opinions. Owning a site has nothing to do with adding weight to opinions. If what you say were true everyone would have an Axe FX and no tube amps as the opinion of the ever so full of clout Scott would rule all. You've made huge moutain of shit over nothing because you think so much of your "hang".

nonsense...

 

[ejecta]

nonsense...

Whatever your hang leads you to hang or whatever hang hangs your hang.

 

[shreder75]

Never got a chance to try the EVHIII head. I guess after reading all the BS and argueing over this head on the Splawn forum, I just never wanted to try it. When it came out several guys over on that forum bought the EVHIII and loved it, Well as you can guess that did not sit well at all with the chosen ones that could not bear to even read the typed opinions of the ones that DID ACTUALLY LIKE THE AMP. So just the task of reading all of their Bullshit just made me wash my hands of it. And dulled my interest in trying the EVHIII. That whole conversation and debate over there made more than a few guys permanently leave that forum. And that forum was never the same in my opinion. I don't say that as a jab, as I am still a current member over there, but the truth, is THE TRUTH!

you wound me deeply

 

[Shiny_Surface]

RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT...he can do what he wants but he has more responsibility than the average poster like it or not. and you might want to use the search function.

I think it's refreshing that Chris doesn't fall in line with the attributes of the typical forum admin and remains "one of the guys" so to speak, it's what defines Rig Talk to a large degree for me. Keeps it real and doesn't give any particular favor to anybody...in my opinion.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Whatever dude. Clout effects the weight of opinions. Owning a site has nothing to do with adding weight to opinions. If what you say were true everyone would have an Axe FX and no tube amps as the opinion of the ever so full of clout Scott would rule all. You've made huge moutain of shit over nothing because you think so much of your "hang".

Yeah Peterson is like the poster boy for "clout responsibility" (not) in some matters, he should get kickbacks from certain manufacturers for his antics...

 

[van hellion]

in reffernce to what ed said about tube swapping new amps.....not just that (great point) but what about how much research and development that is put into some of these super $$$$ amps. wouldn't you think the folks producing it would spend the time to find the perfect brand/type of tube for you? i know that having several different amps i like diferent sounds, but if i want a 6l6 type of sound i am going to choose an amp designed around those tubes (boogie for example) same wih my Diezels. i know for a fact Peter spends countless hours trying to figure out what tubes work and he is the guy designing and updateing the amps so wouldnt he know how to pull the best out of it?

just my 2 cents

A Wood

You would only be right if your "tonetaste" was exactly the same as the amp designers'. I think the most important criterium in tube choices for designers is reliability even if that means tone suffers.
And I don't mean the choice between EL34 vs 6L6 f.i.; there aren't many amps that are plug and play with different powertube "families" so to speak.

Giga.

i was mainly referring to mr. diezel in my post, with a few other companies who have the same quality control (scott splawn and Paul Cornford!!)
These guys spend TONS of time testing different tubes, and while you are correct about tone taste being the same as the builder, you have to see where i am coming from. these guys voice their amps around a sound in thier head the like and also think best represents their product, i doubt very seriously they will stop that same pride in their product with tubes. The same could be said about speakers, yeah change em if you want BUT if you wanna hear a great representation of the total sound of said company why not roll with waht they have designed their shit to work best with. if you dont dig the voicing why not try something alltogether new. Also i find that post production/front of house mixes mean far more than the types of tubes. Or better yet adjust the eq on the front panel. If it works as advertised it should work best when working in conjuction with the tubes the builder has in mind. Of course this only applies to builders with the same quality of a Scott Splawn, Paul Cornford or Peter Diezel, and other guys who pride themselves on every last detail of thier products. But hey whatever floats your boat, those are just my thoughts on gear, i think we all get a little ocd over tiny thngs like tubes and forget major things like what they are in, the guitar feeding said amp, or better yet the guy playing said guitar.


on side note, i think you would be surprised at how many amps can plug and play with different tube families, or at least work with a minor tweak, it was far more than i realized.

just my 2 cents
A Wood

 

[Capulin Overdrive]

i had a Sig around the time Chris had his and don't remember him being out of line at all? hell he even helped me with bias questions, so whatever.


both amps are cool and glad they're out there. never tried an EVH, but went through two Sig-x's! loved the hopped up pair of KT-88's, but like other VHT's, in the end it was still a VHT and the sound got to wearing on me.

 

[Digital Jams]

Oh man...........................

Anyways between the two I would want the Sig-X, very cool amp imo with a huge array of tones to be had.

 

[amiller]

I still have my EVH 5150 III. I think it's a decent enough amp...'just not my thing. I'm going to sell it when I get a chance.

 

[blackba]

We could add the Marshall JVM to this list and the amp I personally feel for the Vox AC50CPH. Not many still have a JVM either.

I sold my Vox AC50CPH like most people sold their Sig-X or 5150III since I liked other amps better, doesn't mean it was a bad amp.

 

[Anonymous]

I had a 5150 III for about a minute..didn't even take the time to do my usual preamp tube swap and bias check of which...I ALWAYS DO ON A NEW AMP!!! had a SigX for a bit longer and knew it had promise so...I CHECKED THE PRE TUBES AND THE BIAS!! Here's what I found...in V-1 it shipped with a Sovtek 12ax7 LPS.....Not good and usually only used as a phase inverter or effects loop buffer tube so..swapped em all out...onto the bias...Way off!! set it and the amp came to life...so..I had that one for 5 minutes...

 

[ejecta]

Whatever dude. Clout effects the weight of opinions. Owning a site has nothing to do with adding weight to opinions. If what you say were true everyone would have an Axe FX and no tube amps as the opinion of the ever so full of clout Scott would rule all. You've made huge moutain of shit over nothing because you think so much of your "hang".

Yeah Peterson is like the poster boy for "clout responsibility" (not) in some matters, he should get kickbacks from certain manufacturers for his antics...