Diezel Amps with Deep turned off and Presence low -> like a new Amp!

[Techdeth]

There’s so many ways to use this amp . It’s endless.

 

[Philosophy prof]

If you really want a chug that is almost like a Mesa Mark.... throw a Precision Drive or Centavo in front of it. I LOVE those pedals with both my VH4 and VHX. I lower the bass a lot as my room is boomy but I keep the deep at 12. I will try this trick next time I fire up my Vh4. Thanks!

How do you run a real pedal with your VHX?

 

[Ultradeaf]

My general rule: I use the Deep control in accordance with volume. The louder, the more I turn Deep up to get and feel more power from the amp. I found a long time ago that turning deep up at low volumes/recording creates too much bass.

And then it's the inverse for Presence. The louder, the more I turn it down. Fine tuning depends on the guitar.

In summary: Deep goes up with volume, and Presence is the inverse. Recording with almost no Deep, and Presence at least half way up. Then playing live (not mic'd), crank the Deep up and turn the Presence down. If you "iso cab" or mic your amp, I would treat it just like recording... keep the volume and Deep turned down. You'll lose all of the articulation and nuances in your playing by overloading the mic.

With that being said, there is very likely an in-between volume where one would have Deep and Presence set to the same point around 12 o'clock.

 

[valve]

My general rule: I use the Deep control in accordance with volume. The louder, the more I turn Deep up to get and feel more power from the amp. I found a long time ago that turning deep up at low volumes/recording creates too much bass.

And then it's the inverse for Presence. The louder, the more I turn it down. Fine tuning depends on the guitar.

In summary: Deep goes up with volume, and Presence is the inverse. Recording with almost no Deep, and Presence at least half way up. Then playing live (not mic'd), crank the bass up and turn the Presence down. If you "iso cab" or mic your amp, I would treat it just like recording... keep the volume and Deep turned down. You'll lose all of the articulation and nuances in your playing by overloading the mic.

With that being said, there is very likely an in-between volume where one would have Deep and Presence set to the same point around 12 o'clock.

yes, that's what i also tend to do when the volume goes up.

in the meantime i am back at "normal" settings at around noon. presence normally higher than deep, a lot more for lower volume and a bit for high volume

 

[Philosophy prof]

My general rule: I use the Deep control in accordance with volume. The louder, the more I turn Deep up to get and feel more power from the amp. I found a long time ago that turning deep up at low volumes/recording creates too much bass.

And then it's the inverse for Presence. The louder, the more I turn it down. Fine tuning depends on the guitar.

In summary: Deep goes up with volume, and Presence is the inverse. Recording with almost no Deep, and Presence at least half way up. Then playing live (not mic'd), crank the bass up and turn the Presence down. If you "iso cab" or mic your amp, I would treat it just like recording... keep the volume and Deep turned down. You'll lose all of the articulation and nuances in your playing by overloading the mic.

With that being said, there is very likely an in-between volume where one would have Deep and Presence set to the same point around 12 o'clock.

That’s brilliant and very helpful. Never understood that relationship. Thanks

 

[J_Rocket]

My understanding of doing the NFB (negative feedback) mod on a Diezel is that a side effect is that the Deep and Presence knobs have less effect on the tone, or I read something to that effect elsewhere on this forum. That makes me wonder if the inverse relationship described above that is also in relation to volume is due to the natural change in NFB as the volume is increased. Interesting.