Diezel Herbert recording

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Hi,
I have recently got into recording and stuff... but i fail to get a good tone out of my herbert. I mic it up with a sm57, have tried lots of different mic positions but it sounds bad. Could it be the cab? I think it sounds to dark and boomy although it sounds great in the room :doh:

new to the forum btw :D
 
Mic's are very inefficient. They don't pick up exactly what is being put out by the cab. You have to tweak the tone to fit the mic. That means it might sound like shit coming out of the cab but sound really good when you play it back. Never have I recorded and thought the tone i was using was really awesome until I heard it played back. I just recorded a whole album with my Herbert. Needs alot of high end with a sm57. I had my bass around 11 oclock. My mids at around 3 oclock. my treb around 4 or 5 oclock. Seems like alot but if your getting a dark sound you need to back off that bass alot and give it lots of high end. watch the gain too. I had mine at about 12.

-Alex
 
I always find that recording you need WAY more treble than you would think you do initially. Listen to the Banana. Set your amp up for the mic'd signal not the room. It's best if you can put the cabinet and mic in a place that you can't hear when you're getting your tone while you can still reach the head.
 
Hey banana,
that really helped on my tone actually, but my tone is so wet now, i want it more dry xP
 
Watch your distortion level on it. Maybe try channel 2 with the + on. If you are using channel 2 with the + on try channel 3. Also be sure to mess with the mid cut on and off to get the dry tone that you want. Also keep in mind that the Level knob on the mid cut increases volume alittle so dont be fooled by thinking it sounds better because it's louder.
Best of luck to you!!!

-Alex
 
Random_man":2v1d7j56 said:
Hey banana,
that really helped on my tone actually, but my tone is so wet now, i want it more dry xP
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Try less gain.
 
Have you tried recording it with the mid-cut off or just barely on at all? That seems to be the reason people get crap tones and can't cut through their bands. Jacking the Mid-cut is a no no.
 
Few things to try..

1. Blending Mics ( i used a 57 and a 421 worked awsome)

2. Less is more. Less gain!! Maybe push presence a bit...

3. Try turning mid cut off. i had issues w recording w that on. or turn intensity down.

4. Try a diff speaker. I love V30s BUT the K100 tracked really nice!!!

just a few ideas
 
i've heard this problem on a few forum threads here and there, and that the herbert also wont cut through a band. I totally screwed myself and played through a herbert at a local shop and now my amp lust outweighs my wallet. thing is, I'd be playing solo with a drum machine/computer setup. anyone have experience with this? think i'll have problems cutting through my mix?
 
colimofsmoke":nramvozo said:
i've heard this problem on a few forum threads here and there, and that the herbert also wont cut through a band. I totally screwed myself and played through a herbert at a local shop and now my amp lust outweighs my wallet. thing is, I'd be playing solo with a drum machine/computer setup. anyone have experience with this? think i'll have problems cutting through my mix?
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Read my post above. It cuts fine if you don't waste time with the mid-cut. Mine cuts through against a Marshall with ease.
 
Yeah I agree with spguitar, after i took of the mid cut it is so much easier to record, the function is cool and fun on its own, but does not work well in a band mix. The fuction is not really necessary :P have a marshall my self to, cuts through easily
 
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