Diezel kicked the bucket last night. Need backup amp...

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racerevlon":2lzj4f9u said:
I have a Hughes & Kettner Trilogy listed right now for right in that price point. PM if interested.

Thanks for the offer. I'm going to try and keep the next purchase within Canada, preferably local, to keep down costs. Cheers.

Matt
 
bubbastain":2vbzi5yz said:
The Egnater Vengeance is right there in that price group brand new. Very nice clean and I liked the dirty channels. Pretty versatile amp.

Cool. Thanks for the suggestion!

Matt
 
Vrad":3tyloh4o said:
I have the 6505+. I dig it. It's not as thick as the 5150 combo but it sounds great to me.

Nice! I do miss my 5150 and would be totally happy having one again. Not sure if the 6505+ or 5150 III is the way to go.

Matt
 
fluff191":92re2ap8 said:
6505+ or a used Dual Rectifier. :thumbsup:

Both great amps within the budget. Just gotta see what pops up in my area. Thanks for the suggestions. PS that Peavey Ultra plus vid you did sounded really good!

Matt
 
Buckeyedog":25qlxzqh said:
I bet Mike is right. Power tube went and took the B+ fuse.

Good stuff. My Dad told me that was the first things he was going to check as well. He's the electrical / electronics guru. I just pass him the tools and the beer. lol

Matt
 
Joeytpg":vu8h5urr said:
Phrygian, the Renegade won't have enough gain and low end for you, specially if you're used to a Herbert. It's a FANTASTIC rock/blues amp but not a metal machine.

I'd recommend you get into a guitar Center and check out the Egnater Vengeance and Armageddon, those will definitely be in your alley.


Thanks for the heads-up Joey! I had wondered about that. I'll still give it a go. Maybe I'll snag it anyway if I feel it could be useful in the studio. It won't solve the backup amp dilemma but hey, that's what GAS is for lol. Cheers.

Matt
 
thegame":3sppiers said:
Phrygian":3sppiers said:
So we're rocking out last night and my Herbert goes dead silent.

You sure you didn't just activate the mid cut feature ? :D

lol! Nah, not the mid cut feature. That would be hilarious though, oh man.
 
supes0328":hz1zlnwf said:
Sounds exactly like a blown fuse and/or the power tubes. Same thing happened to my JSX a few months back. And you could always look at GC Used online. They have all the greats and you can always find something under 1g. I saw a JSX on there last week for $399... I'm still kicking myself in the ass for not picking it up as a back up.

Wow, a JSX for $399? Functional? lol

I'll be checking those things. Cheers.
 
Ventura":3hw8bxck said:
My guess? Power tubes need replacing and re-biasing once installed. New slo-blow fuses in all spots. If this isn't the case, it's potentially OTs which would be bad - real bad. Typically PTs go with a bang - pop, sizzle, crackle - this bit about there being a hum in advance of its death, not so sure. Don't like the sounds of this. When you're done going tilt on th gigging, plug this baby back in and hit the standby to RUN - make sure there's a load on it - and look behind to see if the fuses are shot. Even in advance of hitting RUN, when the amp is in standby mode, with the rear grille off the back, you should notice the tubes will either be heating and coloured homogenously, or there'll be a couple or four or maybe all six that look weird inside - red, orange, blackened interior of the tube, etc.

Peace,
Mo

Thanks Mo! All the power tubes are lighting up fine. I had a tube in my Soldano burn right up once though, to the point of blue flame. THAT was interesting!

The preamp tubes are lighting up fine as well, but a couple look weak upon first inspection. I'll just do a complete swap. It's probably due. Cheers.

Matt
 
duesentrieb":wl8wwsv2 said:
If you or your dad needs help to fix the (probably tube related) Herbert issue, let me know . . .

That would be great! Thank you very much! I will keep you posted :thumbsup:

Matt
 
Les Zombie":1plk6263 said:
My herbert blew a fuse a few months ago and a set of my tubes went bad, i changed the fuse and changed a few tubes and it worked fine until last week and the same thing happened. So i decided to order new power tubes from laura. I think my old tubes went bad.

Sounds like the same problem. Just crazy. Herbert goes dead and all I see are dollar signs flashing before me lol. I'm hoping for an easy fix. My Dad's pretty confident it will be. He'll probably look at it this weekend. Until then it's back to the JCM 800's.
 
Phrygian":20h6r3jn said:
Ventura":20h6r3jn said:
My guess? Power tubes need replacing and re-biasing once installed. New slo-blow fuses in all spots. If this isn't the case, it's potentially OTs which would be bad - real bad. Typically PTs go with a bang - pop, sizzle, crackle - this bit about there being a hum in advance of its death, not so sure. Don't like the sounds of this. When you're done going tilt on th gigging, plug this baby back in and hit the standby to RUN - make sure there's a load on it - and look behind to see if the fuses are shot. Even in advance of hitting RUN, when the amp is in standby mode, with the rear grille off the back, you should notice the tubes will either be heating and coloured homogenously, or there'll be a couple or four or maybe all six that look weird inside - red, orange, blackened interior of the tube, etc.

Peace,
Mo

Thanks Mo! All the power tubes are lighting up fine. I had a tube in my Soldano burn right up once though, to the point of blue flame. THAT was interesting!

The preamp tubes are lighting up fine as well, but a couple look weak upon first inspection. I'll just do a complete swap. It's probably due. Cheers.

Matt
More than likely OT then - sorry. I'm not an armchair pro though, I hope I'm wrong.
Mo
 
Ventura":cv04lq18 said:
More than likely OT then - sorry. I'm not an armchair pro though, I hope I'm wrong.
Mo

I hope so as well! lol
 
I had two JJs 12ax7s in my Mak4 that jsut stoped working completely. If you plug into the FX return, and still get nothing I would check the fuses, replace the Phase inverter, and next would be the power tubes. You should be able to pull a pair at a time to see where the bad one is. I also see that you swaped speaker cables already, have you tried a different cab in case one of the speaker wires inside the cab came off. I had that happen to me once, now I solder them all. I would think that with how well built the Diezels are I would be surprised if it is an OT.

Good luck!!!

If you want a small rig for a backup a good preamp with a solid state 150 watt power amp makes a great 2-3 space rack backup system...Unless your preamp is a Mak4 then it is a 5+ space rack.
 
GuitarGuyLP":284qxq2s said:
I had two JJs 12ax7s in my Mak4 that jsut stoped working completely. If you plug into the FX return, and still get nothing I would check the fuses, replace the Phase inverter, and next would be the power tubes. You should be able to pull a pair at a time to see where the bad one is. I also see that you swaped speaker cables already, have you tried a different cab in case one of the speaker wires inside the cab came off. I had that happen to me once, now I solder them all. I would think that with how well built the Diezels are I would be surprised if it is an OT.

Good luck!!!

If you want a small rig for a backup a good preamp with a solid state 150 watt power amp makes a great 2-3 space rack backup system...Unless your preamp is a Mak4 then it is a 5+ space rack.

Well shit. I get home and my dad asks me if I swapped cabs. I said no. I go try it and voila. BUT, I put it back on the original cab, and that's working too. So I'm kind of at a loss. Very happy it's working again. Not sure if the issue will re-occur. Time will tell.

In a way it's fate. First major snow fall today and my tires are too bare to handle the conditions already. Looks like that bit of money is going to winter tires and rims. :doh:
 
Phrygian":2ocv2903 said:
GuitarGuyLP":2ocv2903 said:
I had two JJs 12ax7s in my Mak4 that jsut stoped working completely. If you plug into the FX return, and still get nothing I would check the fuses, replace the Phase inverter, and next would be the power tubes. You should be able to pull a pair at a time to see where the bad one is. I also see that you swaped speaker cables already, have you tried a different cab in case one of the speaker wires inside the cab came off. I had that happen to me once, now I solder them all. I would think that with how well built the Diezels are I would be surprised if it is an OT.

Good luck!!!

If you want a small rig for a backup a good preamp with a solid state 150 watt power amp makes a great 2-3 space rack backup system...Unless your preamp is a Mak4 then it is a 5+ space rack.

Well shit. I get home and my dad asks me if I swapped cabs. I said no. I go try it and voila. BUT, I put it back on the original cab, and that's working too. So I'm kind of at a loss. Very happy it's working again. Not sure if the issue will re-occur. Time will tell.

In a way it's fate. First major snow fall today and my tires are too bare to handle the conditions already. Looks like that bit of money is going to winter tires and rims. :doh:

I'm glad its working, but certainly hurts any easy chances of diagnosing problems until it acts up again. Those come and go problems are always a pain to fix.
 
Cool that it is working now.

But, the theory of buying a cheaper tube amp isn't going to fix tube related problems....comes with the territory.
 
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