Do any of you remember 1992? NAFTA...the beginning of the end of US manufacturing

[harddriver]

Bill Clinton and George Bush two sides of the same Globalist coin.........................

 

[harddriver]

 

[Ben Waylin]

TPTB and the mainstream media hated him.

 

[japetus]

Community Reinvestment Act

 

[harddriver]

TPTB and the mainstream media hated him.

YEP! Because he was speaking truths and had the data to back it up. Keeping American strong and independent wasn't part of the globalist plan.

 

[Ben Waylin]

YEP! Because he was speaking truths and had the data to back it up. Keeping American strong and independent wasn't part of the globalist plan.

"NAFTA. You don't hafta."

-- Ross Perot

 

[harddriver]

 

[japetus]

 

[psychodave]

On a school crosswalk by me there is still a Perot for president bumper sticker in the crosswalk pole. It's worn, but you can still read it.

 

[Ben Waylin]

On a school crosswalk by me there is still a Perot for president bumper sticker in the crosswalk pole. It's worn, but you can still read it.

Just as well..

They would have JFK'ed him if he got in there.

 

[psychodave]

Found a pic of the sticker

 

[Ben Waylin]

Prolly a 5G tower.

 

[riffsfordaze]

Yes those fuckers sold this country out just like every president since...

 

[VonBonfire]

Meh we supposedly nuked Japan and then made them a manufacturing goliath buying them new factories meanwhile our own country became less business and manufacturing friendly. I remember all the tv and stereos shifting production over there and my grandpa and greatest generation types were furious. They should've rioted then. So the selling out was basically complete before the 60's ended but everyone was too busy smoking weed and screwing to notice I guess.

 

[japetus]

Prolly a 5G tower.

That explains it.

 

[Ben Waylin]

That explains it.

 

[psychodave]

...a school crosswalk....

Prolly a 5G tower.

 

[Laputan Machine]

I think by the time NAFTA rolled around things were already done for in terms of manufacturing being a major part of the middle class. I think the real kicker was when Fiat money was enabled by the Fed in the 70s combined with open trade with China.

The economy of the US for companies/brands that "make" things is basically some really rich people at the top, a very well funded marketing dept, a small engineering and design dept and that's pretty much it so companies domestically are far smaller than what you'd think, while reaping in hordes of cash for the people at the top in addition to hordes of money flowing out of the country to pay for the manufacturing. Then these companies hide behind what they are doing a lot of times by pretending they care about stuff like the environment, "social justice" etc.

I've had things manufactured in China and it is truly astonishing how cheap it is compared to doing it in the US, and the scary part is that they are capable of doing very high quality work, very quickly, they work far harder than people in the US, they are far more professional, and they are making decent money now, it's not slave labor wages over there. I think their middle class is better off than the US middle class at this point in terms of quality of life/relative earnings. A lot of young people over there have disposable income, unlike the US at this point.
Their Government seems to actually REALLY care about their country unlike the US. Roads in China are generally pristine, and it's not like they just upkeep main roads, they maintain roads no one really uses. The Government spends heaps of money subsidizing shipping of goods to make their companies far more competitive, instead of spending money on 'green economy' slush fund scams and billions and billions in waste and nonsense. The sheer scope of corruption in the US at this point probably dwarfs that of China.

 

[japetus]

Their Government seems to actually REALLY care about their country unlike the US. Roads in China are generally pristine, and it's not like they just upkeep main roads, they maintain roads no one really uses. The Government spends heaps of money subsidizing shipping of goods to make their companies far more competitive, instead of spending money on 'green economy' slush fund scams and billions and billions in waste and nonsense. The sheer scope of corruption in the US at this point probably dwarfs that of China.

Go spend some time and China, and watch this entire worldview crumble before you. Corruption in the US dwarfs corruption in China? I do not how to even address that.

 

[Laputan Machine]

Go spend some time and China, and watch this entire worldview crumble before you. Corruption in the US dwarfs corruption in China? I do not how to even address that.

Have you been there? Have you ever done business with them? Have you looked at the development China has been able to achieve in the past 20 years instead of squandering it on BS like the US does with all it's money?

Literally half the people in the 23 million public jobs in the US have worthless jobs that do nothing but suck up tax money. Everyone in those jobs participates in pension scams to the tune of hundreds of billions every year. How much money we funnel over to places like Ukraine for scams amounts to more than the entire defense budget of China.

Pretty much the entirety of our government and public apparatus is rotten to the core at this point. Not saying China doesn't have corruption, but they have a much stronger sense of Nationalism that facilitates at least some functions of their policy and government to develop the nation for the good of China. We don't have that in the US anymore. We have people all out for themselves with no real rules or sense of national identity to contain those actions so those actions just go where ever, they aren't retained within the country so the plebs get to feed at the trough or get to eat the scraps. There is no impetus in the US anymore for the political system to move in a way that benefits it's citizens at least in some form. China does have that impetus in their political system.