Do the production CCV's sound like this?

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SLOgriff":axx56amf said:
Makes sense, I think everyone's comments just about sums it up!

I put my money down on a Production CCV last May(2011). I would never, ever do this again!!!That's a lot of time to wait, watch, read, and listen. The only videos that have given me hope (that I will like this amp) is the original video above, a recent Pete Thorn video playing thru one, and about two Mark Day videos from the end of last year.

I know its YouTube coming thru computer speakers, but a lot of the videos make the mids sound thin (not cutting) and a punch is missing that I CAN hear in the above original 2008 video.


Don't pay much attention to any of those clips, Bryan. If anything, the CCV is not thin in the mids. It has punch across the complete range of EQ and tightens up with volume. There is almost no sag, squish or give in the amp at any volume. Even with the added clipping, it stays tighter than tree bark.... :D and, if that is what you are after, then it is a good thing.

Steve
 
232cap":1cqwj1j6 said:
Yep the CCV is as tight as a frogs ass.


Wow, now that's tight! :aww: :confused:

They should put that on the new Cameron website. * Cameron CCV - "Tight as a frogs ass"!
 
jcj":ljlmcm85 said:
splawner":ljlmcm85 said:
I have a new production CCV and love the amp and i know i can get the same tones out of mine that is in the Video you posted....I also had an original CCV and would say i like the new production CCV's for my liking a bit better... I feel my CCV has a bit more gain on the mid clipping channel than my old one had which works for me....Bottom line IMO just killer amps :rock:

It definitely has more gain on the mid clipping, and the feel is more saturated.

I guess I'd say that particular CCV, or most of the old ones I've owned or played have almost a clean channel running behind them....really hard to explain, but you'd know it if you felt it...

I like 'em both :D
I know exactly what you mean. :rock: Mark's amps are all that and a bag of doiritos. The ones that he gets into that is like all of yours. :thumbsup:
 
steve_k":2koaio3i said:
SLOgriff":2koaio3i said:
Makes sense, I think everyone's comments just about sums it up!

I put my money down on a Production CCV last May(2011). I would never, ever do this again!!!That's a lot of time to wait, watch, read, and listen. The only videos that have given me hope (that I will like this amp) is the original video above, a recent Pete Thorn video playing thru one, and about two Mark Day videos from the end of last year.

I know its YouTube coming thru computer speakers, but a lot of the videos make the mids sound thin (not cutting) and a punch is missing that I CAN hear in the above original 2008 video.


Don't pay much attention to any of those clips, Bryan. If anything, the CCV is not thin in the mids. It has punch across the complete range of EQ and tightens up with volume. There is almost no sag, squish or give in the amp at any volume. Even with the added clipping, it stays tighter than tree bark.... :D and, if that is what you are after, then it is a good thing.

Steve
This doesn't apply to his handired PTP CCV's.
 
steve_k":33khrf4x said:
Just like some of the original Marshall's are a little different, because they were trying to buy what components they could in the UK with a war going on. Mark's inconsistency on the original CCV's was the same. Mark is a tweaker and builds from what he hears. There's probably not two of the same.

The CCV without any clipping, actually makes very minimal tube gain. Two tubes for each channel isn't going to bring about a large amount of gain. But, as Josh said, the overall tone with the clipping engaged is almost like layering the clipping on top of the cleaner, lower gain tube tone. This is what gives the CCV so much punch. And, the more you crank it, the tighter it gets.

All that said, I leaned toward Mark's modded Marshall's for the tone and feel that I wanted. Still, they are fine amps and indeed, most are different. And, there are going to be subtle differences in the production models over the originals.

Steve
Two tubes for each channel can have massive amounts of gain if you skip the cathode follower - that would be four tube gain stages. It is the fact that the CCV has cathode followers on both channels that makes it such that the tube gain is not massive...

Steve
 
yeah its just three and two for the lower gain

its more than preamp drive on that bad boy. Filtering, power section tricks, NFB mod, making sure the signal is riding the edge of destruction so the sound blooms back and instead of diminishing it seams to just stay level for a few.
 
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