Does a guitar with these specs exist?

[Deleted member 87294]

Talkin to a buddy last night...and wondering if someone makes a guitar with these specs:

1. Trem with DTuna
2. 24 Frets
3. Priced around $1k

I couldn't think of one so thought i'd ask here...just in case

 

[rsm]

EVH guitars?

 

[cardinal]

Off hand, a floating trem and a D tuner don't work together. You'd need a trem stop or Arming Adjuster type mechanism.

That why you don't tend to see that combination. Some of the recent N4s do it, but Nuno's guitar is actually blocked I think.

 

[Devin]

I didn't think DTuna was usable on a floating trem

 

[Deleted member 87294]

EVH guitars?

was my first thought, but only 22 frets!

Off hand, a floating trem and a D tuner don't work together. You'd need a trem stop or Arming Adjuster type mechanism.

That why you don't tend to see that combination. Some of the recent N4s do it, but Nuno's guitar is actually blocked I think.

I didn't think DTuna was usable on a floating trem

you are both right, i'm an idiot, what i really meant was just a trem (not necessarily a floating one)

adjusted the post up top

also N4's are priced way higher than $1k though right? and i just checked on fret count and even nuno's guitars are only 22 frets...damn

 

[rsm]

I didn't think DTuna was usable on a floating trem

I wasn't sure about that, so I deleted it.

@Nashville Riff Co The EVH guitars have FR with DTuna; maybe you can buy an EVH FR bridge kit and put in a guitar with 24 frets?

 

[Deleted member 87294]

I wasn't sure about that, so I deleted it.

@Nashville Riff Co The EVH guitars have FR with DTuna; maybe you can buy an EVH FR bridge kit and put in a guitar with 24 frets?

thats what i'm wondering honestly...how hard is it to install a dtuna on a trem? can they go on any trems or only specific trems?

 

[rsm]

EVH body for sale with the FR trem + DTuna

https://reverb.com/item/91550721-2023-evh-wolfgang-special-loaded-body-guitar-floyd-rose-miami-blue

 

[rsm]

thats what i'm wondering honestly...how hard is it to install a dtuna on a trem? can they go on any trems or only specific trems?

IDK, but easiest would be to get an EVH FR trem with DTuna already installed, unless you can figure out how to mod a FR for a DTuna?

 

[Deleted member 87294]

IDK, but easiest would be to get an EVH FR trem with DTuna already installed, unless you can figure out how to mod a FR for a DTuna?

might even just build a FU tone bridge with a dtuna i guess...

 

[napalmdeath]

thats what i'm wondering honestly...how hard is it to install a dtuna on a trem? can they go on any trems or only specific trems?

Easy to install, but you'd need to look for guitars with a top-mount floyd. Recessed might cause issues on clearance.

 

[Deleted member 87294]

Easy to install, but you'd need to look for guitars with a top-mount floyd. Recessed might cause issues on clearance.

yea i found some promod mexican charvels but they'd need to be routed to fit the dtuna

 

[cardinal]

Most 24-fret guitars are going to have recessed trems. It's not hard to route a channel for a D-tuner (and paint the route black) and block the trem.

To avoid modifying, you'll need a top mount trem like 80s Jacksons or Charvel Model 5/6 etc. Those are likely over $1000, but you might get lucky finding a Model 5 or 6 right around there.

Fwiw, I just use the fine tuner to drop tune. Theres obviously enough range (that's essentially how the D Tuner works, it just switches quickly).

 

[Deleted member 87294]

Most 24-fret guitars are going to have recessed trems. It's not hard to route a channel for a D-tuner (and paint the route black) and block the trem.

To avoid modifying, you'll need a top mount trem like 80s Jacksons or Charvel Model 5/6 etc. Those are likely over $1000, but you might get lucky finding a Model 5 or 6 right around there.

Fwiw, I just use the fine tuner to drop tune. Theres obviously enough range (that's essentially how the D Tuner works, it just switches quickly).

This is very helpful, thank you, is the fine tuner method reliable? repeated use does not cause damage?

i really don't mess with floating trems so trying to get answer for buddy

 

[Matt300ZXT]

Find a used Warmoth built to those specs, pop on an EVH D Tuna or similar item and go to town for that price.

 

[Matt300ZXT]

thats what i'm wondering honestly...how hard is it to install a dtuna on a trem? can they go on any trems or only specific trems?

Easy to install, pain in the ass to get it setup just right. But nothing too much harder than intonating a Floyd guitar.

 

[Deleted member 87294]

Easy to install, pain in the ass to get it setup just right. But nothing too much harder than intonating a Floyd guitar.

Ok cool, might just take it to glaser and let them put it on depending on the guitar I decide to go woth

 

[Matt300ZXT]

Ok cool, might just take it to glaser and let them put it on depending on the guitar I decide to go woth

Oh, I guess you actually are in Nashville and it's not just a clever name lol

I put one on a 2008 USA Charvel and it was easy to install, just a little game of cat and mouse on getting it tweaked just right so when I popped it out for drop D and popped it back in for standard, getting the strings to play together nicely.

 

[cardinal]

This is very helpful, thank you, is the fine tuner method reliable? repeated use does not cause damage?

i really don't mess with floating trems so trying to get answer for buddy

So the finer tuner works by screwing down a spring metal plate that would otherwise lift the back of the saddle (if not for the fine tuner pushing it down), which in turn raises the pitch.

The D Tuner inserts between the fine tuner and the spring metal plate, and essentially toggles between two positions (one neutral, the other pushing the plate down a set amount).

So to whatever extent repeatedly using the fine tuner is unreliable/damaging, so is the D Tuner. I've had old ass spring plates wear out (not from drop tuning), and you just replace them.

 

[Deleted member 87294]

Oh, I guess you actually are in Nashville and it's not just a clever name lol

I put one on a 2008 USA Charvel and it was easy to install, just a little game of cat and mouse on getting it tweaked just right so when I popped it out for drop D and popped it back in for standard, getting the strings to play together nicely.

Haha yea 100% in Nashville, 0% of the talent needed to be a musician in Nashville lol

Good to know it’s not difficult, I’ll probably just see how much they’d charge cause I can see myself attempting it and then giving up half way hahaha

So the finer tuner works by screwing down a spring metal plate that would otherwise lift the back of the saddle (if not for the fine tuner pushing it down), which in turn raises the pitch.

The D Tuner inserts between the fine tuner and the spring metal plate, and essentially toggles between two positions (one neutral, the other pushing the plate down a set amount).

So to whatever extent repeatedly using the fine tuner is unreliable/damaging, so is the D Tuner. I've had old ass spring plates wear out (not from drop tuning), and you just replace them.

Again massively helpful, at some point the part will go no matter what it sounds like it. I had always wondered how the dtuna works so this has been a learning moment. Thanks a lot man!