does anyone have suggestions for adding low end to a strat?

[mentoneman]

That's a Gotoh 510 mate.
killer do a ' killer ' brass block for them too.

The saddles you have sound great so there's no need to change them.

cool good to know-thanks!
does callaham do the block or???

 

[Anonymous]

A callaham block, if they make one will add top end mate.

I recommend a brass block from Killerguitarcomponents for your needs.

 

[Deleted member 13074]

that's not a bridge Tyler has ever used AFAIK
it has been the stock choice on other boutique makers for ages, but not Jim
does that mean anything? not really, but it points to a tone that a Tyler might not be known for

I think you are in the right area in looking at the bridge
a block change would help IMO only if there is a steel block already on there
bigger brass blocks are not worth the effort in my experience
backing down to a zinc block from a steel one will reduce the freq range and warm it all up
touch the block
is it warm (zinc) or does it cool your fingers (steel)?
I can't see if it is a 2 point or 6 screw bridge
I would go to source for help
ask Jim what bridge he recommends for the shift you are trying for
his 6 screw with Raw Vintage saddles is bright and vibrant
it will be similar but less bright on a 2 point
the solid saddles he puts on others rings with great sustain
he doesn't use steel blocks btw

 

[mentoneman]

its a 2 point pivot bridge
here is the back and the block

thanks for the feedback so far guys i really appreciate it

 

[50MkII]

Consider the following: add another tremolo spring(my experience has been that the Callaham has been preferred and my tech agreed), replace the block, this I feel strongly about, with a Callaham steel block or Resonari ( I have one but have yet to try it so this is based on others feedback not my experience). Really need to know the type of pickups you are using and a shot at the pup cavity.

 

[Anonymous]

That's a crappy cast block.
Tyler likes them for their warmer tone apparently.

I found them thin sounding.

A new block, whichever you choose will be a big improvement.

 

[Deleted member 13074]

with respect, that is not my experience
the 'extra' you get from another block will simply accentuate the issue the OP has
the inherent freqs are coming in the majority from the woods, and that unwelcome tightness
won't be tamed by a block that will add more
that block is a good balanced sound and tells me a new bridge will not solve all
it needs the highs tamed and the lows ramped, which could be too much of an ask
but some rebalance is possible with different saddles
the gotoh Jim uses with vintage saddles would be looser
best to keep your Tyler using Tyler-approved parts
from there the only place to go is the pick-ups
what are they?

 

[mentoneman]

pickups are suhr fletcher landau standard neck/middle
and tom holmes 450 bridge

this might be insane but i once had a strat which i blocked the trem on with a piece of wood in the cavity between the sustain block and the routing space where the block travels when you depress the vibrato bar and the tone got fatter

why doesnt anyone make a wood sustain block? even if the contact point for the ball end of the string has to be metal to avoid the string from wearing out the wood at th contact point? much like graphtech makes hraphite saddles with metal inserts.

 

[50MkII]

What cap value(s) and type are you using? Pic of the cavity while you are in it might help. So Holmes hb in the bridge? Also, you meant a rosewood fingerboard not neck I take it.

 

[Anonymous]

a simple fix.

try wiring a .015 or even lower (.008/800 or 900pf) cap in series with the bridge pickup lead, then to the pot where the wire was.

should shave off some of that high end.

 

[lester]

Generally, I wouldn't mess with any of the parts that Jim has on there except maybe the pickup choice.

So you may want to try these three little things Buzz Feiten does to get things to vibrate more freely - 1) Screws from the neck to the body, not real tight. 2) Crack the middle screw of the bridge plate open. 3) and not tightening the tuning machines too much.

 

[nigelpkay]

I guess it depends what you play but put a Dimarzio Super Distortion pickup in the bridge. It's got a ton of low end and makes any Strat sound huge.

 

[Valtyr]

Would raising the pickups on the bass side help in this situation (at least with chords) ?