Does everyone try to be Pantera?

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As per Rex's own words: http://loudwire.com/rex-brown-dimebag-d ... y-lunatic/

Sounds like a bit of a cocky hick really... nobody can be Pantera first of all because nobody riffed like Dime. End point. But to suggest that every other heavy band is trying to be like Pantera is a bit ridiculous wouldn't you say? There was riffing before and after Pantera...
 
I liked Pantera as a whole. Dime seemed like a cool dude, met him once. I don't get the whole "dime is a god" thing. He's better than me, but I never focused much on his riffs. Too many pinch harmonics for this kid.
 
Rex is outta his mind. In his book he also said he NEVER bought drugs. :lol: :LOL:

Inflated egos come with success. Yes, he is a great bassist. Yes, he can write well. Yes, pantera was one of the biggest metal acts ever that spawned a generation of players and bands. But "everyone"? Come on e-Rex.....take it down a notch. Everyone has looked for the hook looooong before pantera. You didn't invent it.
 
While Rex isn't "patting himself on the back," he should take the time to thank Exhorder for their influence on Pantera.
 
I personally think after the first three albums, Phil ruined that band and they would have sounded much better without him. He was fantastic on cowboys and Vulgar though. Shame he let the booze and drugs destroy his voice.
 
Not to mention some of the obvious influences pantera themselves "drew" upon and still got the term groove metal.
 
Beyond Black":2n5vilxx said:
While Rex isn't "patting himself on the back," he should take the time to thank Exhorder for their influence on Pantera.
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headlessdeadguy":29wid3m6 said:
Beyond Black":29wid3m6 said:
While Rex isn't "patting himself on the back," he should take the time to thank Exhorder for their influence on Pantera.
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You know. ;) :lol: :LOL:
 
I like Pantera.... wouldn't say I want my band to sound like them.
 
Pantera had as much influence as metallica on the metal world. I'll give them that much. They were awesome for sure.

I've been trying to cop Dime's tone for a good 5 years now (his live tone), and i'm very close with my current gear. It's not as easy as some might think. Some might not like it, but it is by far my favorite metal tone ever, especially "live 101 proof" and "trendkill".
 
anomaly":1hv4e904 said:
I've been trying to cop Dime's tone for a good 5 years now (his live tone), and i'm very close with my current gear. It's not as easy as some might think. Some might not like it, but it is by far my favorite metal tone ever, especially "live 101 proof" and "trendkill".
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Randall X2 or a c-200 with the special sauce thru a couple of warhead stacks. Worth owning if that's what you like. Bloodrock, dwisted, juggy and I love plugging that rig up. Fucking massive!!

BTW, I wonder if e-rex's new band kill devil hill wants to be pantera too?
 
At the time CFH came out, I thought they were soft compared to the current slayer, Celtic frost, carcass, dark angel etc.... I couldn't understand the hype at all.

Looking back, they were ok at best buy that's my opinion. I liked heavier at the time and they seed very commercial.
 
I (personally and subjectively) don't like Pantera, they did nothing for me. Then again I more into the melody driven side of rock rather than the rhythmic groove heavy stuff.

I find Pantera to be... riff... drums follow riff, bass plays riff, singer does a shouting thing over it all. I find it boring (personally and subjectively) and it doesn't capture my imagination as all I hear is thousands of 14 year olds playing "walk" and shredding pentatonics on their Zoom pedals. So every time I hear the Pantera tone I just think "fizzy zoom pedal on ultra high distortion..." I'd rather obtain a smooth over driven tone full of feeling rather than the shreddy fizzy mess Dimebag is worshipped for (personally and subjectively)

In regards to the interview it's pretty strange as usually the metal world is pretty laid back in interviews, he seems to have an agenda and an ego which aint cool. I respect Pantera but their fans are so angry sometimes it makes me wonder what the fuss is?
 
F#@k Rex Brown. If anyone could have been replaced in that band, it was him.
 
Holy shit I had never listened or heard of Exhorder in my life and I have to say, no kidding. I totally hear it. The riffing (even the bending of notes within the rythms), the fast guitar with slow steady drums, the tone, the crazy whammy squeals and dives. Now the debate, were they not out at around the same time?

This sheds some light:

Midwest Metal: Now onto EXHORDER. Not to stir up any tried-and-true bullshit here, but there's been a legend approaching 20 years that PANTERA deliberately ripped off EXHORDER. Your vocal style was an obvious influence on Phil Anselmo in the early '90s, and there are even old-school pictures of Anselmo proudly wearing an EXHORDER T-shirt. Perhaps it's time to shitcan this legend, or instill truth to it. Would you defend the claim that PANTERA deliberately ripped off EXHORDER in order to survive the passing of the glam-rock trend, or argue that PANTERA were slightly influenced by EXHORDER's style and simply mixed it together with the late Dimebag Darrell's incredible guitar playing?
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Kyle Thomas: The thing I hate the most of this topic is just how handcuffed we are to their success. Did they rip us off? Possibly. Was it deliberate? Maybe. Were they influenced by us? Definitely. Did they work a helluva lot harder than we did? Absolutely. Case closed.

Midwest Metal: Any memories of Dimebag Darrell, while speaking of PANTERA?

Kyle Thomas: Darrell was always really cool with me. We weren't tight friends but we were friendly acquaintances that enjoyed each other's conversations and throwin' down some booze. He came out to see EXHORDER several times out in Fort Worth. We had great mutual respect and admiration for each other's work. It hurt my soul to hear what happened to him. I feel really bad for his family and loved ones.
 
Yes, they were around at the same time. C.F.H. and Exhorder's first album, "Slaughter in the Vatican" were both released in '90. But for a few years before that, Exhorder had a couple of demos floating around with the groove/thrash sound that Pantera adopted on C.F.H. after their "Power Metal" album. Phil was a huge Exhorder fan and used to spread the word about them and share their music. I'm not certain that Pantera "ripped them off", but I definitely think that they were strongly influenced by them. It's all good by me, everyone's got their influences. Pantera took it to a more commercial direction. Exhorder was far more brutal than they ever were. Exhorder was one helluva band. It's a shame they only did two albums, because they both killed. Their singer, Kyle Thomas now sings for Trouble and he still sounds great.
 
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