Don't ask the question if you don't want the answer

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Mini rant that stems from the usual dumb-assery of the same damn people at work.

Why the fuck do people ask for feedback or suggestions on something then get all pissy when you give them an honest answer. I'm not here to pat you on the back and say "what a great job." When you present a pile of dog shit I'm not going to pretend it's chocolate ice cream. I can be professional about it, but if you ask I'm going to tell you it's dog shit. Dust the sand out your vagina, stop getting all butt-hurt over honest critiques, and realize I'm telling you the truth in order to help make things better. If you're just looking for affirmation, go somewhere else. Don't ask me a question if you're not prepared to hear my honest answer.
 
Because we are on the second or third generation of pussies that can't handle criticism. This is what happens when you start handing out participation trophies and the education system teaches "feelings" not facts. It is also my opinion that those reasons with the addition of social media, is why teen suicides and mass shootings are rising.
 
The sad thing is some of these turds that get their feelings hurt are Gen-X and older than me. I'm in my mid 40's so came into the world at the tail end of that generation; so they'd be late 40's to late 50's.

Probably doesn't help that I'm a State gov't employee so I get to deal with that shit at times too. I feel so out of place sometimes. I'm one that wants to get things done as efficiently as possible and produce top quality results. When I was first hired as supervisor, my section was full of useless, lazy people producing crap work. The same type who would also get offended at the drop of a hat.

I remember this one person was not wanting to do their work. I told them they are expected to run 2 instruments at once. They literally pitched a fit, threw papers across the room, and cried something about "I'm going to quit" then ran to tattle on me to the manager. My response was bye. The manager coddled them and I got a talking to because I told them to do their job.

It took me a few years to finally run those people off and hire good working, intelligent people. Now our stuff runs like clockwork, and has been that way for the last 7-8 years. You can go to me or any of my staff and ask about what we're working on. Any one of us can tell you what's being worked on, where it's at, and how much longer until it's complete. I also did a lot of work in the background to automate all the mundane stuff. So all we need to do is input a few numbers and the rest is auto-updated.

It's why I have time to screw around on RT. We have our stuff done up front are are usually waiting on other people to get their shit together. As soon as that work hits our hands; bam... it's done.

I do have a really good group. We all get our stuff done. I can critique them and no one gets butt-hurt about it. They take it as a way to improve or be more efficient. It's a two way street. They critique and help each other out. My staff can even call me out if I have a stupid idea or they have a better way of doing something. I don't take offence to that. And if it is a better idea we run with it. Regardless of who's suggestion we go with, if it doesn't work out we walk it back and try something else. No one gets upset over it.

Can't say as much for the rest of the sections. Half their stuff is in disarray, the other half is barely being kept up with. It's all because of useless staff, useless managers, and everyone walking on eggshells so no one gets offended. Hardly anything can get done like that. I really don't know how they function sometimes. Perfect recent example, We just had our EPA audit. The auditors were scrounging to find something wrong to give my section a finding. All they came up with was "even though you're doing it correctly and there's no regulation that states it, you split the extract into 2 vials instead of putting it all in one. We got that one BS finding.

Meanwhile the department's other section received 18 findings for all sorts of stuff they didn't do right, or just didn't do at all. If I had a say in it I'd be asking how did you fuck up so bad? But heaven forbid someone tells these people to do their job and do it right. The next thing you know everyone's running to HR whining about their feelings being hurt.

While I'm thinking about it... Does anyone have Elon's number? I'd like to get his input on a few things.
 
People like to ask for criticism because they know most people won't be honest; and therefore, the answer the requester gets helps to rationalize their crappy output.
 
The sad thing is some of these turds that get their feelings hurt are Gen-X and older than me. I'm in my mid 40's so came into the world at the tail end of that generation; so they'd be late 40's to late 50's.

Probably doesn't help that I'm a State gov't employee so I get to deal with that shit at times too. I feel so out of place sometimes. I'm one that wants to get things done as efficiently as possible and produce top quality results. When I was first hired as supervisor, my section was full of useless, lazy people producing crap work. The same type who would also get offended at the drop of a hat.

I remember this one person was not wanting to do their work. I told them they are expected to run 2 instruments at once. They literally pitched a fit, threw papers across the room, and cried something about "I'm going to quit" then ran to tattle on me to the manager. My response was bye. The manager coddled them and I got a talking to because I told them to do their job.

It took me a few years to finally run those people off and hire good working, intelligent people. Now our stuff runs like clockwork, and has been that way for the last 7-8 years. You can go to me or any of my staff and ask about what we're working on. Any one of us can tell you what's being worked on, where it's at, and how much longer until it's complete. I also did a lot of work in the background to automate all the mundane stuff. So all we need to do is input a few numbers and the rest is auto-updated.

It's why I have time to screw around on RT. We have our stuff done up front are are usually waiting on other people to get their shit together. As soon as that work hits our hands; bam... it's done.

I do have a really good group. We all get our stuff done. I can critique them and no one gets butt-hurt about it. They take it as a way to improve or be more efficient. It's a two way street. They critique and help each other out. My staff can even call me out if I have a stupid idea or they have a better way of doing something. I don't take offence to that. And if it is a better idea we run with it. Regardless of who's suggestion we go with, if it doesn't work out we walk it back and try something else. No one gets upset over it.

Can't say as much for the rest of the sections. Half their stuff is in disarray, the other half is barely being kept up with. It's all because of useless staff, useless managers, and everyone walking on eggshells so no one gets offended. Hardly anything can get done like that. I really don't know how they function sometimes. Perfect recent example, We just had our EPA audit. The auditors were scrounging to find something wrong to give my section a finding. All they came up with was "even though you're doing it correctly and there's no regulation that states it, you split the extract into 2 vials instead of putting it all in one. We got that one BS finding.

Meanwhile the department's other section received 18 findings for all sorts of stuff they didn't do right, or just didn't do at all. If I had a say in it I'd be asking how did you fuck up so bad? But heaven forbid someone tells these people to do their job and do it right. The next thing you know everyone's running to HR whining about their feelings being hurt.

While I'm thinking about it... Does anyone have Elon's number? I'd like to get his input on a few things.
Keep doing you! Sounds like they’re lucky to have a badass on board.
 
People like to ask for criticism because they know most people won't be honest; and therefore, the answer the requester gets helps to rationalize their crappy output.
I guess that's why I'm often viewed as an asshole. I'm well aware of tact and professionalism, but I'm too damn old and have been through too much bullshit at this point to give a response just to coddle people's feelings.
I've said it before, if you're being a fuckup, sometimes you need to be told you're a fuckup. Myself included.
 
I guess that's why I'm often viewed as an asshole. I'm well aware of tact and professionalism, but I'm too damn old and have been through too much bullshit at this point to give a response just to coddle people's feelings.
I've said it before, if you're being a fuckup, sometimes you need to be told you're a fuckup. Myself included.
Great point. A distinction needs to made here because it is a lot easier to be honest online anonymously. Telling a coworker or boss to their face is entirely different.

We had this thing at my prior job where we were required as part of our annual review to get 5 reviews from our peers and submit those into this system. What a clusterfuck that was. In the old days you'd sit down with your boss and go over your achievements and areas to improve. Then, 'the company' got lazy and almost everything about the review was either self created, AI, or coworkers. Covid created a lot of this BS if you ask me.

I mean, it sucks to have to bother people by asking for a peer review but then it also sucks to have to provide feedback - especially to someone whom you don't believe does a very good job.
 
Great point. A distinction needs to made here because it is a lot easier to be honest online anonymously. Telling a coworker or boss to their face is entirely different.

We had this thing at my prior job where we were required as part of our annual review to get 5 reviews from our peers and submit those into this system. What a clusterfuck that was. In the old days you'd sit down with your boss and go over your achievements and areas to improve. Then, 'the company' got lazy and almost everything about the review was either self created, AI, or coworkers. Covid created a lot of this BS if you ask me.

I mean, it sucks to have to bother people by asking for a peer review but then it also sucks to have to provide feedback - especially to someone whom you don't believe does a very good job.
I guess if everybody viewed feedback as an opportunity to learn and grow it would certainly make things a lot less awkward. I get it, it's hard to hear negative things about yourself. I guess over the years I've just learned to take it less personally.
I work for a very small private company and I take the approach of doing things the right way and very much subscribe to the "smarter, not harder" philosophy.
My boss on the other hand, has zero patience and an inability to teach. So when I make mistakes and/or recieve criticism, I try to learn but say to myself "I do the best I can with the tools I'm given"
 
Great point. A distinction needs to made here because it is a lot easier to be honest online anonymously. Telling a coworker or boss to their face is entirely different.
I guess if everybody viewed feedback as an opportunity to learn and grow it would certainly make things a lot less awkward. I get it, it's hard to hear negative things about yourself. I guess over the years I've just learned to take it less personally.

It's also dependent on what type of relationship you have with your supervisor and peers.

Outside of my department I'm pretty sure some people view me as an ass because I tell the truth when asked or give my input in meetings. I don't give two shits if they do or not. I'm not afraid to speak my mind when needed. I'm there to do a job to the best of my ability, not cater to everyone's feelings. I'm not going to be purposefully mean about anything, but I will tell you what I think without any sugar coating. And in most instances I follow up with suggestions for improvement or legitimate reasons why I think something's a bad idea. If people can't handle that it's their problem, not mine.

When it's me and my staff, it's a completely different dynamic. If we're working through a problem it's an open floor discussion. We all pull from each other's unique experience. It's more a "that won't work because I tried it before and this is what happened." Then moves to what did work, to refining that idea to work better.

We also have the obligatory yearly reviews I have to conduct. Rarely do I have anything actually negative to say to or about my staff. Most of my reviews got to the tune of you know what you're doing and you do it well. This is the area I'd suggest to focus on to expand you experience. It's nothing official, but I've implemented where my staff gets to review me. I feel like if I don't know my shortcomings from their perspective I can't improve either. And they've called me on a couple of things here and there that I wasn't aware I was doing/not doing.

It would be nice is everyone could see feedback as growth opportunity. Unfortunately too many people take it as you're personally attacking them instead of you trying to help them improve.
 
It would be nice is everyone could see feedback as growth opportunity. Unfortunately too many people take it as you're personally attacking them instead of you trying to help them improve.

I pretty much do it for both of those reasons. And primarily so people will just leave me alone. I don't remember the last time a boss at my company showed up on one of my jobs or in any way went out of their way to come see me. Which is exactly the way I like it. The kid on my truck with me is with the program and the way we do things is simple. Always do it the right way and always do the right thing for the customer. They used to take you to lunch anytime a customer called or emailed to compliment you. They quit that shit because otherwise they'd be taking me to lunch weekly. Most of the people who work here are incompetent and lazy. I am the exact opposite of that so when I start cussing bosses out they don't like it, but they know I'm right and they can't say shit about it. And again, it makes them avoid me altogether which is fantastic. They used to lobby me hard to go management, but there isn't a chance in hell of that happening and I told them that and I told them why. Mother fuckers with 2 years seniority and zero knowledge of what we do get management jobs here and I don't want to be associated with them.


Sorry to ramble. Back on your point, they never will. I spent a lot of time trying to explain logic and reason to my superiors and they aren't interested. They not only accept it, they breed it here. This company turns hard working, conscientious employees into lazy pieces of shit. Their policies are illogical and retarded. They'll bitch about numbers but they aren't actually interested in improvement, obviously.
 
this is what happens when they hand trophies out to the last place team.
soooo the kiddies wont cry all summer. instead they s/b planning to try harder next year
 
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