Drool.....Page #1 LP

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steve_k":f87mm55j said:
Zap":f87mm55j said:
steve_k":f87mm55j said:
Zap":f87mm55j said:
Yup, that's definitely a Les Paul... I bet it sounds like one too. :lol: :LOL:

Great observation :thumbsup:

Sorry dude. I love guitars and dig Page, but that's a metric shit ton of money for something that looks and probably sounds like any other R9, but with JP's endorsement... Definitely not the type to tell someone how to spend their money, but I have difficulty seeing what sets it apart from the rest of the modern Gibson Customs. Same goes for Fender Custom Shop's "Brownie" Clapton guitar.

Early release. 150 made. 1 of 30 to the UK. Brazilian. Made to spec Page neck carve. It's rare and collectible.

I guess the same can be said of stamps. A stamp collector isn't going to lick it and use it. It's collectable.

I don't know anything about Fenders, Fender Brownies or Fender Custom Shop. To me, its just another bolt on. But, I can't comment on their value.

Some of us just operate on a different plane here.

I get that it's a collectibility thing. Didn't mean to piss in anyone's Cheerios or anything. This was the "Brownie" I was talking about - https://www.fender.com/guitars/stratoca ... -sunburst/
 
steve_k":2dq2kiik said:
[ A stamp collector isn't going to lick it and use it.


But his 4 year old son might... :lol: :LOL:


I always found it strange that a collectable production guitar/amp would have 100+ made. To me, and this is me, the number should be 10, or maybe 25 on a 25th year or something. :confused:

But yeah, collectable value has no correlation to functional value.
 
How much?
OVER THE LINE!


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Lovely. Makes me really curious how much Page paid for his in the day.
 
The aged and signed is even more collectable, i believe there was 25 or 50 of the signed and page played them and i think it came with a video of him playing them. Before they was released my dealer offered me a spot to get one for 25k and i turned down the offer. Then a couple months later somebody resold one for 50k, and within a year later they was selling for over 100k. I havent seen the signed version for sale in a while.

I seen a few of the aged #1 selling for 15 to 20k in the last year, theres 150 of them and they pop up more often.

I had the page #2 and it sounded awesome, one of the best sounding lesters i ever owned. I sold it and made a few thousand on it but i wished i had kept it and sold some of my other guitars instead.
 
Les Zombie":2wqc06qo said:
The aged and signed is even more collectable, i believe there was 25 or 50 of the signed and page played them and i think it came with a video of him playing them. Before they was released my dealer offered me a spot to get one for 25k and i turned down the offer. Then a couple months later somebody resold one for 50k, and within a year later they was selling for over 100k. I havent seen the signed version for sale in a while.

I seen a few of the aged #1 selling for 15 to 20k in the last year, theres 150 of them and they pop up more often.

I had the page #2 and it sounded awesome, one of the best sounding lesters i ever owned. I sold it and made a few thousand on it but i wished i had kept it and sold some of my other guitars instead.

You've had some bad ass Les Paul's. I think I remember when you sold it.
 
Steinmetzify":2t7z8ghb said:
The neck doesn't look unplayably thin either, at least from that view....I'd always assumed that they'd be thin as a friggin pencil.

Funny thing about those necks that you wouldn't expect from a signature guitar...they were very inconsistent. I played two of them at the same time that couldn't have been more different once you got beyond their similar appearance. One was fairly lightweight with a very thin neck...it played great and got an awesome bluesy tone as well as some nice, spanky cleans. The other was heavier with a much chunkier neck and a much darker sound...it was more suited for higher gain as it sounded big and dark but lacked the sweetness of the lighter one.

 
rupe":2pd99w6j said:
Steinmetzify":2pd99w6j said:
The neck doesn't look unplayably thin either, at least from that view....I'd always assumed that they'd be thin as a friggin pencil.

Funny thing about those necks that you wouldn't expect from a signature guitar...they were very inconsistent. I played two of them at the same time that couldn't have been more different once you got beyond their similar appearance. One was fairly lightweight with a very thin neck...it played great and got an awesome bluesy tone as well as some nice, spanky cleans. The other was heavier with a much chunkier neck and a much darker sound...it was more suited for higher gain as it sounded big and dark but lacked the sweetness of the lighter one.


Yeah, the only thing consistent at Gibson was the inconsistency...especially with the 59 neck.

The true Page 59 neck is supposed to be 22.5mm thick at the first fret and 25.5mm at the 11th, somewhere close to that with the C profile. Some of the 59's are a bit bigger and with more of a D profile.
 
Tom Murphy actually lives in the same small town in Illinois that I work. He pretty accessable too.
 
steve_k":23p08fzy said:
Yeah, the only thing consistent at Gibson was the inconsistency...especially with the 59 neck.

The true Page 59 neck is supposed to be 22.5mm thick at the first fret and 25.5mm at the 11th, somewhere close to that with the C profile. Some of the 59's are a bit bigger and with more of a D profile.

The real Page 59 is supposed to have a dogbone neck that is thinner in the center (around the 7th fret) to the point where the truss rod is in danger of poking through the thin wood in that area. This pic shows a Page neck that is probably much thicker than the real thing.

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chumbucket":1k9vdc48 said:
steve_k":1k9vdc48 said:
Yeah, the only thing consistent at Gibson was the inconsistency...especially with the 59 neck.

The true Page 59 neck is supposed to be 22.5mm thick at the first fret and 25.5mm at the 11th, somewhere close to that with the C profile. Some of the 59's are a bit bigger and with more of a D profile.

The real Page 59 is supposed to have a dogbone neck that is thinner in the center (around the 7th fret) to the point where the truss rod is in danger of poking through the thin wood in that area. This pic shows a Page neck that is probably much thicker than the real thing.

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Yeah, that bit of sag in the middle is the give away on the Page. That first R9 you have, see how much difference in that and the Page? That first one is more of a 58 rather than a 59.

Again....inconsistency. Good comparison though. One other thing to mention in the RI's is the headstock rake angle. You can see the difference here too.
 
The Page neck is probably not that comfortable to play. I'd rather have a regular 59 or a 60 style neck.
 
chumbucket":20lk02t4 said:
The Page neck is probably not that comfortable to play. I'd rather have a regular 59 or a 60 style neck.

As long as they aren't the baseball bat 58's I am good with any of them. 60's get a little thin for me though to the point of being uncomfortable and cramps.
 
love it, but not the shaved down neck and certainly not the $27,000 price tag.
 
I hope it is shipped in a steel case this time......
 
BYTOR":3e3mtp88 said:
It could be great or possibly sound quite average.........but that's not the point of owning this anyway.


I was thinking the same thing.
 
rupe":89zz8cqw said:
Steinmetzify":89zz8cqw said:
The neck doesn't look unplayably thin either, at least from that view....I'd always assumed that they'd be thin as a friggin pencil.

Funny thing about those necks that you wouldn't expect from a signature guitar...they were very inconsistent. I played two of them at the same time that couldn't have been more different once you got beyond their similar appearance. One was fairly lightweight with a very thin neck...it played great and got an awesome bluesy tone as well as some nice, spanky cleans. The other was heavier with a much chunkier neck and a much darker sound...it was more suited for higher gain as it sounded big and dark but lacked the sweetness of the lighter one.



were the truss rods peeking through the backs of the necks? :D

Didnt JP shave those necks down next to nothing? If JP smeared dog shit all over his guitar the JP fanboys would have followed suite with no rhyme or reason and Gibson could add a 70% mark up because fanbois will pay anything to be like jimmy and request murphy aged JP dog shit ;)
 
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