Edge Pro Replace a Schaller Floyd on Charvel?

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Hey guys.

I have a Charvel from Japan. About a 90, or 91 DDR I think it's called. It has a Schaller From Germany trem, which I like, but I love my Edge trem I have on my S series from Japan Ibanez. The Ibanez guitar is ok, but I really like the rest of the Charvel guitar better than the Ibanez.

I was looking at the trems, and they are identical in width, and it looks like it should work easily. There is enough clearance, etc,. I just don't know if there's the same spacing and radius, but that could be easily fixed with different blocks or shims.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever replaced an OFR with an Edge or Low Pro Edge, or a Schaller Floyd with the same? If so, how did it work out?

I like the edge better because it's more solid it seems and it has a better bar you just push in, and it has no extra wobble. I can get a great big block to go on it too just like the original floyd.

Thanks guys.
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I've replaced an Edge Pro with a OFR and it went fine. The only caution is that I think the OFR is more forgiving on the post spacing because the bass side of the plate is completey open. The Edge trems need the spacing to be exactly what they want because both parts of the baseplate are "closed" semicircles (if that's makes any sense.

Worth a shot to try it. Just pull off the trem springs, take the Schaller off the posts and test fit the Edge Pro in there.

If the Schaller is recessed, you're likely to have big problems, but if not you should be able to see pretty quick if it'll work.
 
Hi Cardinal.

I understand what you're saying about the Edge knife edges being half enclosed. Yes, makes sense.
I don't understand why the schaller being recessed is a problem? On my Ibanez the edge is also recessed?
Both are about the same size and the posts seem to be identical in spacing, although I only eyed it, but didn't check with a precision measuring instrument like calipers, which is probably what I'll do next.
I also wondered about the radius matching the fretboard on the edge with the charvel. I'm assuming the charvel was setup with the Schaller floyd to match as I'm running the action pretty low for me, and it works great with no buzz. Could be just the guitar, but it was never worked on as I know the original owner and he bought it new and I remember when he did so as he showed it to me and I tried to buy it from him then. I was able to finally get it, and I love it, except I love the edge trem better, not much, but a little.
The other thing I'm considering / wondering about is the posts. The edge trem posts lock into position and I'm wondering how hard it would be to pull the original schaller posts and replace with the edge posts to get the locking?

I would or could always buy a gotoh floyd which is who makes the edge and also has the features I like. But, I have the edge here at home. :-) and it's cheaper to replace it with another used one from ebay, etc,.

Thanks man. Let me know what you think about my concerns if you do have any comments. :P
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cardinal":ojvl9te4 said:
I've replaced an Edge Pro with a OFR and it went fine. The only caution is that I think the OFR is more forgiving on the post spacing because the bass side of the plate is completey open. The Edge trems need the spacing to be exactly what they want because both parts of the baseplate are "closed" semicircles (if that's makes any sense.

Worth a shot to try it. Just pull off the trem springs, take the Schaller off the posts and test fit the Edge Pro in there.

If the Schaller is recessed, you're likely to have big problems, but if not you should be able to see pretty quick if it'll work.
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I just did a quick rough measure, and yeah, if the Schaller is recessed, the Edge won't fit without enlarging the rout. The schaller is (very roughly) 2 3/8" front to back, the Edge is 2 3/4"
 
Have had both. The Schaller is a higher quality trem. I would stick with that. If it's play in the bar, I would fix that, but the Schaller's I've had had less play than any Ibanez trem I've tried.
 
Yeah, I doubt the base plate dimensions match up. So if the Schaller's recessed I doubt the Edge Pro will fit. But it's easy enough to check.
 
Hey Guys. I don't have an Edge pro, but the low pro edge or whatever it is. The good one. The original edge. Not the edge pro.. or edge pro 2.. This thing isn't bigger than the Schaller. The thing looks identical almost in width and length, etc,. I'll take pics tomorrow and post. Can't find camera now and girl friend will shoot me if I start taking pics this time of the night.. It's 1:38 am or something here..
Anyway, sorry if I told you the wrong Ibanez bridge. This is on an S series Ibanez from I think around 91 or 93 roughly, however, I did find something interesting when I took it apart. On the neck pocket which is the AANJ version it says 540LTD USA which I thought was interesting as it's clearly an S series. I don't know if it was just mis marked or what, but I"ll take pics again and post in the AM early.
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That's an original Edge.

I tried to fit a Lo Pro Edge 7 into a recessed route for an OFR 7 and it didn't fit because the baseplate dimensions were different.

But it's very easy to check. Pull off the trem springs. Take the Schaller off the posts, and try to fit the Edge. You can put the Schaller back on by just putting the trem springs back on. Assuming you didn't unlock the nut, you won't even need to retune your guitar.

It'll seriously just take you 5 minutes or less to check the fit.
 
Thank you. I'll give it try guys. I'm assuming it won't work though after hearing you say you tried and you have the same thing. Yikes.
I'm ordering a new bar and that thing that goes on the base plate where you tighten the travel of the bar, etc,. I'll see if that will work. If it comes loose too easy again though, it's off and a new Gotoh is on! Suhr is even using them instead of the OFR they tell me.
Thanks guys.
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ThrowBackMan":256xmvne said:
Thank you. I'll give it try guys. I'm assuming it won't work though after hearing you say you tried and you have the same thing. Yikes.
I'm ordering a new bar and that thing that goes on the base plate where you tighten the travel of the bar, etc,. I'll see if that will work. If it comes loose too easy again though, it's off and a new Gotoh is on! Suhr is even using them instead of the OFR they tell me.
Thanks guys.
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It will not fit. the Schaller is a better trem. I personally would not modify a guitar so an inferior part will fit. ymmv
 
Thanks Chucktone.
I like the Ibanez trem better, but I love the Shcaller too. I've ordered a new bar and the other part that is on the base of the guitar. I'm told this will fix the problem, and I'm glad of that..
Thanks for all of you that helped.
I appreciate it.
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chunktone":ufpe8e1l said:
ThrowBackMan":ufpe8e1l said:
Thank you. I'll give it try guys. I'm assuming it won't work though after hearing you say you tried and you have the same thing. Yikes.
I'm ordering a new bar and that thing that goes on the base plate where you tighten the travel of the bar, etc,. I'll see if that will work. If it comes loose too easy again though, it's off and a new Gotoh is on! Suhr is even using them instead of the OFR they tell me.
Thanks guys.
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It will not fit. the Schaller is a better trem. I personally would not modify a guitar so an inferior part will fit. ymmv
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Ibanez trems are nice trems. They sound different than a Schaller because the Edge trems are mostly zinc. Ibanez did this by design. There's no perfect arm holder. The Ibanez one works well as long as you continually fuss with those plastic washers on the bar as they wear down.
 
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