ENGL Powerball II mini review

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Hey Guys. This is my second go round with this amp. The first time it had some issues...I think related to shipping.

Before you ask, no clips. I have never made any.

Overall, if you liked the original powerball at all, you will REALLY like the II. My main issues with the first version were that you could not really use all 4 channels on the fly and that it was a bit too compressed sounding on the high gain channels.

The II has 4 legit channels that you can use on the fly, each with its own gain and voulme. The clean and crunch each have their own treble, which is very nice.

The lead 1 and lead 2 channels share controls, but have their own gain and volume. Each channel also has its own bottom button (I like it on lead 2, but not on Lead 1).

The clean channel is very good. Nice clean, clean tones withthe gain below 9 oclock.

Crunch is a HUGE improvement from the original version. It can do mild breakup to 80's thrashy tones and takes a boost pedal very well. I like this channel a lot and hated it on the original.

Lead 1 is a bit thicker sounding than lead 2. More open than the original Powerball, but still aggressive as hell.

Lead 2 is brighter than lead 1 and a bit crisper. I engage the bottom button on this channel and it doesn't get boomy. Very nice.

The presence and Depth controls work very well. As you might expect, I like more presence at lower volumes and less as the volume increases.

On the lead channels, the mid control sounds great at 11 oclock and above. Below that, it is almost like it goes into big time scoop mode.

This amp sounds great at whisper volume and can knock small buildings down when you crank it. One thing I didn't care for with the original was that as you got louder, the sound thinned out a bit. This is not the case at all wit the II. It just gets bigger and meaner.

The effects loop works very well. I am running a reverb pedal in the loop and also tried my MXR 10 band EQ. No need for the EQ, but wanted to try it.

As point of reference, my prior favorite amp in the ENGL line was the Blackmore. I would like to A/B the Blackmore and PBII, but I think I like the overall tone of the II more...and it has much more versatility.

With all that said....if you don't like the ENGL sound, you probably wont like this amp. It definitely sounds like an ENGL. BUT....If you liked the Powerball, but had the same issues I had, this amp is a huge step forward.

ENGL got it right with this amp.

Oh yeah...I did rip out all the ENGL preamp tubes. I don't know what they are, but I really don't like them. I have an RFT in v1 and 2 and Chinese 9th gens in the other spots.

I am wondering what a quad of SED 6L6's would do for this thing :D

Big thumbs up to Josh Sage as well. GREAT guy to work with. Can't reccomend him enough.

T
 
Well I love the Engl sound...and your review has def got my appetite wetted...
 
I enjoyed my Powerball for a long time. A few weeks ago, I finally realized that there were just way too many options for tone. It's got Presence, Focused/Open, Depth/Punch, MId emphasis, and then the normal treble/bass/mids. Even though I liked the sound, I was always messing around with knobs. Throw a couple pedals in there and it just made it hard to focus. Ended up selling it and getting a simple Blackstar Combo, which I like because it only has three tone adjustment.

Glad to see a good review of the powerball...every time I would post something about mine, the same three people would respond with how much they thought it sucked. :aww:
 
I like the Engl tone. Had the Powerball V2. I agree that it sounded a bit thin at volume. Liked the amp but overall wasn't me. Glad to hear it has improved. Bought that Powerball from Josh as well, great dude to deal with. My next Engl will be the EL34 equipped SE, if my VHT ever sells. :confused: Thanks for the review, would love to hear the PBII someday. :rock:
 
The problem with the first Powerball is that it was hollow in the mids. No matter how much I turned up the mids, it still had a "hollow" sound. I wasn't using an ENGL cab so that could have been part of the problem, but I glad to see mine go out the door when I did finally sell it.
 
Any cab/speaker recommendations for use with the Powerball II?

I noticed Engl makes some nice cabs with either greenbacks or V30s. Does the Powerball II sound better with one or the other? (For comparison, I seem to recall the consensus that the Framus Cobra works best when using its matching cab housing greenbacks, whereas the Engl Savage likes the Engl Pro Cab with V30s.)
 
Habuman":3mmbianw said:
IMO the Powerball does sound better when matched to a ENGL cab. I used H&K, Vader, Marshall, Peavey, and Mesa cabs with the PB I had
and it just had a larger/fuller sound with the ENGL cab. The Vader was #2 out of the bunch.

you do know the only birch ply in an engl cabinet is the baffle, the rest is particle board, correct?

800px-Particleboard.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_board
 
I am surprised you liked the Powerball II better than the blackmore. Which amp overall was less compressed between the two based on memory?
 
glpg80":23cm7g9h said:
Habuman":23cm7g9h said:
IMO the Powerball does sound better when matched to a ENGL cab. I used H&K, Vader, Marshall, Peavey, and Mesa cabs with the PB I had
and it just had a larger/fuller sound with the ENGL cab. The Vader was #2 out of the bunch.

you do know the only birch ply in an engl cabinet is the baffle, the rest is particle board, correct?

800px-Particleboard.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_board
I think that is true on the Standard series cabs but not the Pro series cabs. I do believe the Pros are all birch. :confused:
 
Yeah the Pro is all 13 ply birch.

I cannot remember who has the engl cab we used this past summer or which model but holy shit was that cab good.
 
metalsoup":2ujctob5 said:
Any cab/speaker recommendations for use with the Powerball II?

Definitely get an ENGL Pro series cabinet. When I first switched to my ENGL rig (e580 and 850/100 rack gear) I played through my Mesa/Boogie Recto cabs -- 212 and 412 with V30s because I already owned these. These cabs are generally fantastic sounding... with Boogie amps. But something was just lacking in the tone from when I had first reviewed the ENGL gear at MusicPlayers.com (with an ENGL Pro cabinet). I was a little bit worried that the tone I thought I fell in love with the previous year was just an illusion, but I made the investment in an ENGL Pro 412 with v30s and wow! The magical tone was back.

Amp builders really work hard to optimize the voice of their cabs to their amps, and I have frequently found the best results using cabs from the same company as the amp.

NOTE: The Pro series cabinets are significantly different than the less expensive cabs. They are quite robust 14x folded Siberian Birch. Don't waste money on the cheaper ENGL cabs.
 
My Engl XXL pro straight cab is a monster. 138lbs. :shocked: Yes, 138 fucking pounds. Solid as a fucking rock. No particle board here. Front loaded cab with V30's. One of the best built solid cabs I have owned. Sound fantastic too!
 
Sounds like the Engl XXL cab is the current record holder for "heaviest" cab! :lol: :LOL:

I noticed Engl makes two types of 4x12 Pro cabs, one with V30s and one with Greenbacks. Is it safe to say the Powerball II would go best with a cab housing V30s, at least if one is more interested in the high gain end of the spectrum?

Thanks for your input Engl users! :thumbsup:
 
ENGL PRO cabs are also made out of particleboard, only baffle board is made out of birch plywood!

I have e212v PRO cab and have opened it to check...
 
Un_like":2mt9uez4 said:
ENGL PRO cabs are also made out of particleboard, only baffle board is made out of birch plywood!

I have e212v PRO cab and have opened it to check...


Have you opened a 4x12?

From engl.com

4 x 12" PRO Slanted E 412 VS

Warm harmonic midrange, tight bass and silken treble. Very nice for lead sounds.

Also available with a grey grille.
Specifications
Speaker:
4 x12 Celestion Vintage 30
240 watts mono, 2 x 120 watts stereo

Impedance:
8 Ohms mono, 2 x 16 Ohms stereo

Wood:
Siberian Birch 14 times folded

Dimensions & Weight:
74 x 75 x 36 cm, 50 kg
 
412 Pro cabs are NOT particle board. My other guitar player has 2 of them.
 
ke2":2y7k45qn said:
Un_like":2y7k45qn said:
ENGL PRO cabs are also made out of particleboard, only baffle board is made out of birch plywood!

I have e212v PRO cab and have opened it to check...


Have you opened a 4x12?

From engl.com

4 x 12" PRO Slanted E 412 VS

Warm harmonic midrange, tight bass and silken treble. Very nice for lead sounds.

Also available with a grey grille.
Specifications
Speaker:
4 x12 Celestion Vintage 30
240 watts mono, 2 x 120 watts stereo

Impedance:
8 Ohms mono, 2 x 16 Ohms stereo

Wood:
Siberian Birch 14 times folded

Dimensions & Weight:
74 x 75 x 36 cm, 50 kg

no, I have e212v, that's a PRO cab 2x12 with vintage 30!

"2 x 12" PRO Slanted E 212 V

Warm and full midrange tone, tight bass silken treble response.

Speaker:
2 x 12 Celestion® V 30 120 Watts mono, 2 x 60 Watts stereo (stereo split)

Impedance:
8 Ohms mono, 2 x 16 Ohms stereo

Wood:
Siberian Birch - 14 times folded"

only baffle board is made out of birch, the rest is particle board...it's obvious that PRO and Standard version of 2x12 are the same except the speakers...

Shame on ENGL!!
that's the second time that they're misadvertising their cabs...
I e-mailed them few hours ago, I'm really interested if I'll get the answer...
 
RJF":1guzin7r said:
The problem with the first Powerball is that it was hollow in the mids. No matter how much I turned up the mids, it still had a "hollow" sound. I wasn't using an ENGL cab so that could have been part of the problem, but I glad to see mine go out the door when I did finally sell it.
Same when I had mine awhile back. It didn't have allot of cut. This one sounds much better.
 
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