Engl Savage mkII!!!

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Fascinating! The changes they made to the clean channel are really cool. Not that it was unusable before, but I bet you can get a lot more mileage out of the clean channel now than with the OG amp. The built in noise-gate is also great, because IME at least the Savage is a noisy bitch.

I wonder how different the lead channel sounds from the old one. If it's significant enough it may be worth checking out, but as it is I own the original and love it and I'm not sure a noise gate and updated Ch. 1 are worth throwing down on a new version. I originally intended to wait for this one to buy instead, glad I didn't because I would have been waiting for over a year.
 
I bet the Savage II sounds good, I liked the 1st version , I had one for a while. Its prob the voicing of Ola's pickups I don't like. When his guitar tracks are in a mix I like them. But it sounds overly aggressive and compressed when he just does a play through the amp by itself.
 
As Br-Ola says... “It’s tight like anus”. Indeed.

:yes: :lol: :LOL:
 
I hear that ESP is looking to start distributing ENGL amps here in the U.S...That would be awesome. I've always wanted to try one, but never a store to check them out in. Always liked what I heard from clips.

Ed
 
Could be interesting. I'm probably in the minority that's tired of seeing new amps with a "blackout" look. Seems to be a lot jumping on that bandwagon.
 
Damn. So many awesome amps.

This, Herbert 3, new Friedman. How does one choose?
 
NewWorldMan":1z7ys4ck said:
Could be interesting. I'm probably in the minority that's tired of seeing new amps with a "blackout" look. Seems to be a lot jumping on that bandwagon.
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Engls to me looked best with the brushed aluminium front and logo, like the original Savage 60 and 120.

I don't like the chrome/mirror look on my Invader (makes it shit hard to read on stage) and the same with the gaudy chrome (heavy!) metal buttons on the SE. I replaced those ASAP with black plastic ones. Makes a 3lbs difference on the amp. :doh:

I don't mind the black out/stealth look of the new Savage, but this way there will be less of a family 'cohesive' look...

Still, even more interested in what the new Savage 60 will bring!
 
Yeah, I'm also curious about the Savage 60. I had one for a while, and it could have been operator error, but I never got what I wanted out of it. It isn't the fire-breathing monster the 120 is, and it doesn't have the concrete-slab low end the 120 has. Maybe that was on me, but I always felt it didn't have enough low end. And having the gain knobs affect each other was a major pain in the ass if you wanted the rhythm channel to act as a clean channel.
 
I wish Ola would show off at least a little lead playing, I feel like that's an important part of showing what an amp can handle and he only plays rhythms (mostly downtuned).
 
jco5055":2qbzkw6k said:
I wish Ola would show off at least a little lead playing, I feel like that's an important part of showing what an amp can handle and he only plays rhythms (mostly downtuned).
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He did... for a few seconds when he switched to Lead channel Smooth mode. If you are mainly looking for leads, you’d be better off with another amp... heavy rhythm is what this amp does best.
 
the main change in sound to me at least in the video is the clean and crunch 1. The crunch 2 and lead sound extremely similar. Noise gate is useful feature too
 
Yeah, the Rough switch can net some pretty nice lead tones, but if you're primarily a lead guy, another amp is definitely the way to go. Ch. 4 on the Savage is a monster for rhythms, but it's forte is not leads.
 
Ok so after the GAS has passed.

This is literally the same exact thing as the Savage SE minus midi, extra loop and noise gate (all of which I dont need)

Anything that I'm missing?
 
I guess actually being able to find one of the fuckin' things?
 
thrashinbatman":suik498r said:
Yeah, I'm also curious about the Savage 60. I had one for a while, and it could have been operator error, but I never got what I wanted out of it. It isn't the fire-breathing monster the 120 is, and it doesn't have the concrete-slab low end the 120 has. Maybe that was on me, but I always felt it didn't have enough low end. And having the gain knobs affect each other was a major pain in the ass if you wanted the rhythm channel to act as a clean channel.
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The 60 *is* quite lean in the low-end. I pretty much always leave the depth boost engaged and Bass is around 3 'o clock. Only when I'm going for that late 80's Anthrax or Megadeth tone, I'll lower the bass a bit (or boost with a modded DOD 250 or TS9).

I hear ya on the major pain with the gains, but this is only really an issue if you want crystal cleans and crushing leads. I work around this, as almost all my guitars have push-pull pots for coilsplits...so I set the Rhythm Gain to 10 or 11 'o clock and when used with a split hb, it's still pretty darn clean. Lead gain is at 3 or 4 'o clock then...Gain boost always on...makes it thicker and more saturated too...but still plenty raw...

I hope the new Savage 60 will have encorporated the following:
-footswitchable gain boost(s)
-footswitchable fx-loop
-noise gate
-maybe the contour switch would be a nice bonus. Don't care about the MIDI.
 
Yeah, I always had the Lead Boost and Depth Boost always on in the 60. I had a TS always on in a rack as well, so gain wasn't an issue for the lead channel, it was more balancing the two since yeah, I wanted crystal cleans. I probably should have been more willing to go nuts with the low end knob, but oh well, hindsight and all that. If they updated it with a beefed up low end, independent gain knobs, and the contour switch (that's pretty much always on with my 120), I'd theoretically be interested in it.
 
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