EQ pedals and high gain amps

[halebox]

Do any of you guys use EQ pedals with high gain amps? Just tried one in the loop and in front of my Baron. I didnt get to crank but I liked how it brought the mids more forward. Im not going for the scooped sound btw I like the opposite. Is there a benefit or is it bad to put eq in loop?

 

[chumbucket]

I f you have a pedal with only 5 or 7 bands, I would run it in front. If you have a rack graphic or para EQ, I would throw that in the loop for the fine tune tweaking.

 

[halebox]

Seems much louder in loop. Hmm a rack eq probably good idea but not into carrying a rack. Maybe a 10 band vintage MXR pedal.

 

[Gordo]

I used to run a 15 band in the loop for low end 100 hz boost and a 6 band up front for more of a mid boost.

 

[glassjaw7]

I never had luck with eqs in front. Loop for me. Much more effective and noticeable in the loop. My problem with eqs is that I can't leave the damn things alone. I constantly tweak because I always think that I can nudge that one last slider a bit and find the holy Grail! Then I'll switch the EQ off and I usually liked the stock tone better anyway.
Ironically, I don't do this with my Mark's graphic EQ. Found a setting right away and stuck with it.

 

[Steinmetzify]

MXR `10 band in the loop of a 6505, here. It blooms, sir.

 

[stephen sawall]

I f you have a pedal with only 5 or 7 bands, I would run it in front. If you have a rack graphic or para EQ, I would throw that in the loop for the fine tune tweaking.

What does it being a pedal or rack or how many bands have to do with where you use it at all ?

 

[Soundguy213]

I f you have a pedal with only 5 or 7 bands, I would run it in front. If you have a rack graphic or para EQ, I would throw that in the loop for the fine tune tweaking.

What does it being a pedal or rack or how many bands have to do with where you use it at all ?

Was wondering the same.

If you have an EQ in the front of your amp its really only boosting the signal from your pickups. So your "EQ'ing" the pups and usually its not that apparent. Everything that the amp does for your signal is untouched by the EQ.

EQ in the loop is actually EQ'ing the amp signal after your guitar has run through it's preamp section and its own EQ section, but before the power amp section ( i could be mistaken here, someone correct me if im off base). So it's adding a 2nd EQ section to the amp which has a very apparent effect on your signal. Be careful with EQ's in the loop because it is very easy to overdo it. Unless there is something you totally dont like about the amp and need to EQ it in/out, if your using a Boss 7 band for example, a good approach is to use it to effect is to give its a slight boost in the mid range section and a small boost in the volume section (3 db tops) and step on it for lead parts. You will "pop out" of the live mix of the band better. Just one example out of billions

 

[squank]

You're going to get a much more noticeable effect from the EQ in the loop.

 

[jerrydyer]

your pushing more voltage thru the device so more powerfull EQ effect.

 

[halebox]

Im guessing I will prefer the stock tone once turned up. Might be cool for lead boost though

 

[locoed]

I tried a KK 10 band in front of a boogie and didn't like it,then I tried a Rane parametric in the back and liked it,now I have a small presonus in the rear and love it. Nice mids,and no honk,but IMO it doesn't sound good in other amps.

 

[fek]

My problem with eqs is that I can't leave the damn things alone. I constantly tweak because I always think that I can nudge that one last slider a bit and find the holy Grail! Then I'll switch the EQ off and I usually liked the stock tone better anyway.

+1. I want to like using it but I always end up giving up because the tweaking drives me crazy.

 

[jerrydyer]

think of the EQ as a back up tool for a strange sounding room. You go play someplace and for some reason its dark sounding or youre not cutting thru, then tweak. Otherwise I leave EQ alone. Its like my Mark III back in the day. too many push pulls. drove me crazy .. My drummer said your amp sounds different everday.

 

[maddnotez]

I would think a Baron wont need any eq. If its a really good amp your tone should be good stock.

I have a VHT pit with eq built in. I will use eq depending on which guitar im using but I had an arsenal of rack gear including a DBX eq and no matter where I put any of it, it actually hurt my tone.

 

[Shask]

My problem with eqs is that I can't leave the damn things alone. I constantly tweak because I always think that I can nudge that one last slider a bit and find the holy Grail! Then I'll switch the EQ off and I usually liked the stock tone better anyway.

+1. I want to like using it but I always end up giving up because the tweaking drives me crazy.

That is how I am also. I either mess with it constantly, or I end up making every amp sound the same.

 

[rottingcorpse]

if i need an eq, for whatever reason, i like to run it in the loop with an isp decimator after it. a quick adjustment and i am cutting though.

 

[155]

worst thing you can add to high gain amp imo..

 

[halebox]

I think keep it handy for those weird unmic'd rooms where im not cutting through

 

[The Hoff]

think of the EQ as a back up tool for a strange sounding room. You go play someplace and for some reason its dark sounding or youre not cutting thru, then tweak. Otherwise I leave EQ alone. Its like my Mark III back in the day. too many push pulls. drove me crazy .. My drummer said your amp sounds different everday.

I agree with this. This or slight boosting/gooseing.