EVH 5150 III 50 Watt & Digitech GSP1101-match made in heaven

[ejecta]

I tried the M13 before the 1101. The only way to switch the amp channels on the M13 is to actually change SCENES. You can't send a MIDI request to the amp by only changing one of the nine "stompboxes". And changing scenes takes TWO stomps of the foot. When i'm playin' live i want the least tap-dancing possible so that sealed it for me.

It only takes one if you are in scene mode. I use an M13 to switch my Friedman rig and I leave mine in scene mode since getting to a pedal on the fly is what I do the least. I just set my scenes with the pedals I want on and switch the scenes. If I want to get to a pedal then yes it's two stomps for me but that's no big deal IMHO.

 

[deadweight]

You bastard!! That does it, my XXX is going on the block to start a fund for the 50w and a GSP1101. I'll keep my Fortin DSL as a backup, or sell it off later to by another 5150 50 w.

*driven over the edge*

I actually have the 100 watt evh and a XXX and with the right tubes the XXX and GSP 1101 sound fucking killer together, almost as good as the evh and gsp

 

[Random Hero]

I tried the M13 before the 1101. The only way to switch the amp channels on the M13 is to actually change SCENES. You can't send a MIDI request to the amp by only changing one of the nine "stompboxes". And changing scenes takes TWO stomps of the foot. When i'm playin' live i want the least tap-dancing possible so that sealed it for me.

No big deal though, you put it in latch scene mode and it's one button press to change scenes, which also sends a MIDI command to change amp channel or whatever.

 

[Random Hero]

I use a Line 6 M13 with mine for FX and MIDI switching. I also put a clean boost (the Tube Comp model) in the loop when I'm on the green channel to balance out the volume discrepancy. At gig volumes, it's barely noticeable anyway, even more so if you run the gain around noon. I don't, I run it at 3.5-4/10 for a sick crunch tone.

Wicked rig.

Is it possible to switch the channels directly with the M13? I read something about it awhile back and got the impression it wouldn't work. I passed on a cheap M9 because of it actually.

Yes. I do exactly that.

 

[vintagemusicgear]

To Kevin11:

How to eliminate the volume jump?

1) Get an FX processor that can send a MIDI command (like the GSP1101)
2) Put the EVH 5150 III 50 watt into "learning mode" by pushing both small channel buttons on the front.
3) Switch to a certain patch on your processor.
4) Switch to your desired 5150 channel using a front channel button.
5) Push both small channel buttons on the front again to exit "learning mode".

Now every time you stomp that particular patch on your processor the 5150 will jump to the channel you set.

Like i mentioned earlier up, this takes (once you have it down) less than 10 seconds. I've even done it on the fly in concerts. The 5150 "learning mode" makes it easy indeed....

Will it remember all your amp settings? In other words, if you set the clean channel volume on 5 as patch 1, then channel 2's volume on 8 as patch 2, will the GSP remember that and compensate for the volume drop? Will also remember the gain, tone, loop on/off functions?

 

[Spaceboy]

I use a Line 6 M13 with mine for FX and MIDI switching. I also put a clean boost (the Tube Comp model) in the loop when I'm on the green channel to balance out the volume discrepancy. At gig volumes, it's barely noticeable anyway, even more so if you run the gain around noon. I don't, I run it at 3.5-4/10 for a sick crunch tone.

Wicked rig.

Is it possible to switch the channels directly with the M13? I read something about it awhile back and got the impression it wouldn't work. I passed on a cheap M9 because of it actually.

Yes. I do exactly that.

Cool... I think I'm going to grab an M13. I would actually prefer to switch between scenes that are setup with everything I need, rather than dance around with individual pedals... and it wouldn't be too rough to switch with two buttons if I need a change was coming up anyway. I don't do much fancy footwork, occasional verbs and delays, then mess around at home with spacey noodling.

 

[tweed]

You bastard!! That does it, my XXX is going on the block to start a fund for the 50w and a GSP1101. I'll keep my Fortin DSL as a backup, or sell it off later to by another 5150 50 w.

*driven over the edge*

I actually have the 100 watt evh and a XXX and with the right tubes the XXX and GSP 1101 sound fucking killer together, almost as good as the evh and gsp

Which tubes are you running in your XXX? I am currently running Ruby el34's and it sounds pretty damn good for the most part. Using the midi on the 5150 via the digitech would be cool as well.

 

[Kevin11]

To Kevin11:

How to eliminate the volume jump?

1) Get an FX processor that can send a MIDI command (like the GSP1101)
2) Put the EVH 5150 III 50 watt into "learning mode" by pushing both small channel buttons on the front.
3) Switch to a certain patch on your processor.
4) Switch to your desired 5150 channel using a front channel button.
5) Push both small channel buttons on the front again to exit "learning mode".

Now every time you stomp that particular patch on your processor the 5150 will jump to the channel you set.

Like i mentioned earlier up, this takes (once you have it down) less than 10 seconds. I've even done it on the fly in concerts. The 5150 "learning mode" makes it easy indeed....

Will it remember all your amp settings? In other words, if you set the clean channel volume on 5 as patch 1, then channel 2's volume on 8 as patch 2, will the GSP remember that and compensate for the volume drop? Will also remember the gain, tone, loop on/off functions?

Thanks for the info! I'm cool with switching channels on the EVH via MIDI, and getting the amp to remember which patch calls up which channel. I was more curious on how you dealt with the volume differences between channels 1 and 2. I was assuming you adjusted the levels in your GSP between patches to compensate, until vmg's question that is.

 

[TirenJhames]

Yes indeed. I program my clean channels typically at 99, the highest possible. The crunch and Channel three patches i usually put at about 33, which makes them about the same Db level as the clean channel.

Just finished practicing "Dream On' for this weekend. Programmed two patches for it with accompanying volume matching in under 15 seconds. Now THAT i like.

 

[vintagemusicgear]

Will the Boss GT10 achieve the same thing as the Digitech?

 

[thiswaythatway]

Is the 1101 the same as the RP1000? I had the RP but didn't jive with it that much. Unless I was doing something wrong I thought it was screwing with my sound.

 

[TirenJhames]

Not at all familiar with the RP1000 or the GP10, sorry. You can always call Digitech or Boos or any manufacturer and ask 'em. I've always found 'em willing to answer questions....

JT

 

[DADA]

Cool!
I am also gassing on the EVH mini 50 to combine with the Ultra and MFC-101. Do not know if this is possible. If not it might be better to wait for the 3U KPA. Have to wait anyway cause the delivery of the EVH is now set for end of october here in Europe and I do not expect the 3U KPA arrive before the NAMM or Musikmesse early next year.

 

[TirenJhames]

yea, i'm now waiting for the EVH 2x12 to be delivered so i don't have to lug around the 4x12. Expected mid-October. Love the whole slant-with-amp-on-top design!

 

[vintagemusicgear]

Hey, all. Just thought i'd throw this out for anyone who's got or getting the new EVH 50 watt amp. As most of us know...it's INCREDIBLE. However....the whole volume jump from clean to crunch can be mucky morass to sludge through.

That said, after trying three other units i have settled on the GSP1101. it works EXCELLENT with the amp. Doesn't tone suck; channel switches via MIDI perfectly; easy to program; hooks up with the 4 cable method well; provides just enough effects to not drown out the fire of Eddie's latest....in a word, it is "perfect'. I can get the old VH sound by using very little FX, or his newer sound by engaging more, like the harmonizer effect.

I also got the Control 2 foot controller to go with it and, dudes....(or you occasional guitar lasses)...i wouldn't have it any other way. These were truly made for each other and makes live switching a "bring-it-on" breeze.

Anyway, food for thought. I'm just glad i got rid of that @#$%# volume jump. It was drivin' me crazy!

You mentioned that you tried three other units, what were those?

 

[TirenJhames]

I tried two guitar processors: the Digitech GNX4, and the Line 6 M13. Hated how both of those sounded. Then i noticed in my solo gig rack my old Quadraverb 2, so i tried just running that in the loop...and it actually was the second best choice based on non-sucking, clear effects. But, since it was lacking wah, other guitar fx and didn't have a foot pedal, i kept searching.

Glad i did too. After some months now the 1101 is still doing just GREAT at making my sound spectacular through the 5150. LOVE IT!

Now, if i can just get that EVH 2x12 out of backorder...! ;-)

 

[vintagemusicgear]

I'm anxious to try my Boss GT 10 through the 5150 now....

 

[vintagemusicgear]

Is there any way to mod the amp to make the clean channel louder?

 

[strungup]

Is there any way to mod the amp to make the clean channel louder?

I use a RC booster. It raises the volume on the clean while keeping it clean and I can switch to channel two with a minimal volume increase even with the RC still on. That's even at very low volumes where the volume difference is huge without the RC.

 

[vintagemusicgear]

Is there any way to mod the amp to make the clean channel louder?

I use a RC booster. It raises the volume on the clean while keeping it clean and I can switch to channel two with a minimal volume increase even with the RC still on. That's even at very low volumes where the volume difference is huge without the RC.

Do you keep it on when you're in channel 3? Do you use the RC in front of the amp or through the loop?