EVH 5150III S Demo

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hammered":xi5gqtki said:
SQUAREHEAD":xi5gqtki said:
K-Roll":xi5gqtki said:
funny thing how sometimes people use the phrase 'brown sound' even for supper bright tones. I thought that one of the most preferred tones of EVH the man himself were based around marshall plexi which to me sounds suuuuuuper bright.. I always thought that the brown tone should resemble somewhat of a darker tone, less piercing, fuller, with ooomph and sag and 3D textures..

Me too brother… In my opinion, VHII is the brownest of tones ever… It's not my favourite album, my favourite album is fair warning… But as far as brown sound guitar tone, ITS Van Halen II

VHll has a few tones that I thought were on par with VH1 . SGMAD , Bottoms Up , LUTS and DOA were fairly bright and cutting but kinda lack the sizzle of VH1 . But yes that album is pretty brown

i'm going to agree with Squarehead. VHII is my favorite VH tone. Of course VH1 is wicked also. The 2nd-6th albums all sound like a kick ass Super Lead being pushed somehow as far as they can go. But they all sound like a real amp being recorded. VH1 sounds like there is just something else going on there. It's weird it sounds like nothing that came before it and nothing that came after it, even by VH.
 
SQUAREHEAD":2kg15h85 said:
skoora":2kg15h85 said:
That interview/demo was kind of weird. Maybe I'm too saturated on politicians right now. The guy says all the buzz phrases but doesn't actually show it doing anything all that well and the interviewer certainly seemed like he felt it was all somewhat full of shit doing an EL34 version but not really having all that different of an amp. He kept pushing for what's actually different and the guy goes on about the "engineering" but doesn't actually clear up what major feats of Engineering have been accomplished. Different transformers and a resistor or cap change here and there? The clean gain was on 2. I would imagine it would sound clean there lol. Ch 2 having that much gain with it's pre on 2 kind of blows. I didn't like the Stealth ether for that same reason. It's all gain, all of the time.

Remonds me of the Peavey 6534. The difference was so negligible and even though I'm an EL34 circuit kind of guy it didn't sound any better than a 6L6/5881 version. If anything, it bumped up the nasal quality they can have in the mids up a tad, which was not better.

I agree totally… I like how He keeps saying, 'we're really excited about this amplifier'... I guess there's not much else he can really say… :lol: :LOL:

You want to listen to a 6 minute interview with an engineer? :scared: So instead we get Salesguy 101 who really doesn't demo the amp well or tell us anything we really want to know about it.

IMO, this is just an EVH 5153 100w Stealth that has been modified in the design to take EL-34's and function properly. This is not at all what any of the EVH fanboi's (myself included) had in mind when there was talk of an EL34 based amp in the EVH line.
 
Chubtone":1w8h22fu said:
SQUAREHEAD":1w8h22fu said:
skoora":1w8h22fu said:
That interview/demo was kind of weird. Maybe I'm too saturated on politicians right now. The guy says all the buzz phrases but doesn't actually show it doing anything all that well and the interviewer certainly seemed like he felt it was all somewhat full of shit doing an EL34 version but not really having all that different of an amp. He kept pushing for what's actually different and the guy goes on about the "engineering" but doesn't actually clear up what major feats of Engineering have been accomplished. Different transformers and a resistor or cap change here and there? The clean gain was on 2. I would imagine it would sound clean there lol. Ch 2 having that much gain with it's pre on 2 kind of blows. I didn't like the Stealth ether for that same reason. It's all gain, all of the time.

Remonds me of the Peavey 6534. The difference was so negligible and even though I'm an EL34 circuit kind of guy it didn't sound any better than a 6L6/5881 version. If anything, it bumped up the nasal quality they can have in the mids up a tad, which was not better.

I agree totally… I like how He keeps saying, 'we're really excited about this amplifier'... I guess there's not much else he can really say… :lol: :LOL:

You want to listen to a 6 minute interview with an engineer? :scared: So instead we get Salesguy 101 who really doesn't demo the amp well or tell us anything we really want to know about it.

IMO, this is just an EVH 5153 100w Stealth that has been modified in the design to take EL-34's and function properly. This is not at all what any of the EVH fanboi's (myself included) had in mind when there was talk of an EL34 based amp in the EVH line.
Yeah, when the interviewer flat out asked him he tried to make a bigger deal out it than it really is. Tubes definitely make a difference, but it would have been nice had they done more than simply tweak it to take EL34's :doh: . The improved clean channel is nice, though.
 
Get some...Mo Money,Mo money. Eddie must be loving semi-retirement, his gear really is great.. and Im sure the residuals are too!
 
I was exited to hear the news on this amp, but this was way too much gain and scooped sounding for me. No "throwback" for me at least. Sounded more like an Engl amp of sorts. I want to see another quality demo with less distortion going on before my verdict falls though.
 
1) I dig the demo tones I've been hearing of this amp. Definitely something different (and good IMO) going on in the mids with this EL34 version .

2) I hate that every EVH amp thread leads to a "brown sound" discussion. I personally don't want Ed's early tone in my amps. I like the early tone but not for my style. I know that this has been sort of the sales pitch for this amp (as well as the previous amps) but I think we all kind of know by now that anything they release is not going to sound exactly like the first VH album.

3) As a weekly gigging musician, I'm in on this amp but only when it comes in the smaller 50w version. These 100w heads are just way too big.


Edit: I do agree, as someone previously stated, there is way too much gain on the second/blue channel. They should have based this EL34 version off of the standard 100w and not the stealth (which I'm assuming they did). I still feel the best tone of any version comes from the original's blue channel.
 
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