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I see what you were trying to go for, but unfortunately that's not a very good analogy given either the type of mask or the context one would wear it.

Except for the surgeon which I've already discussed, the other examples have built in mechanisms that would prevent the wearer from rebreathing their exhalation. A racing helmet has a forced air system that well... forces air across their face. Very similar to a PAPR. A motorcycle helmet also forces air across the riders face via vents across the nose and mouth area, just in a different mechanical way. Astronauts are fed oxygen while wearing the helmet. You should also note that in those three examples the helmet is not in direct contact with the wearer's face like a mask, surgical or otherwise. Along with the built in mechanisms this provides enough extra room for any exhalation to not be trapped near the face to be breathed back in.

Along with this the extra room and forced air mechanisms in place would expel any incoming particulates, for example aerosols containing bacteria and viruses, or the pathogen itself from entering the wearers body. Similar to a PAPR.

In the instance of a surgical mask, it's the clean environment that would help prevent and airborne pathogens from entering the body. The surgeon would be more at risk from bloodborne pathogens within the patient.

No, I'm not disputing your claim that rebreathing your own exhalation would cause a bacterial infection. A bacterial infection would not just appear in your breath out of nowhere. You'd have to be infected already or it come from an outside source. Rebreathing your own exhalation already containing a pathogen may exacerbate your infection by reintroducing the infection and/or strengthening the viral load. I'm just saying your analogy is flawed and in essence doesn't make much sense in this given context.
 
You are trying to compare a surgical MASK (or otherwise) to a FULL FACE HELMET. Do you even understand the difference? This is why none of us, that possess common sense, can take you seriously. And I for one, can't imagine you have even reached puberty yet.
Remember what I said about first impressions? Remember YOUR first post? Your a piece of shit troll and should continue to be treated as such.
Did you read my post just above yours?

Tell me, why does wearing a mask open you up to bacterial pneumonia? When you answer that I will explain the connection between a full face helmet and a surgical masks.
 
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No, I'm not disputing your claim that rebreathing your own exhalation would cause a bacterial infection. A bacterial infection would not just appear in your breath out of nowhere. You'd have to be infected already or it come from an outside source. Rebreathing your own exhalation already containing a pathogen may exacerbate your infection by reintroducing the infection and/or strengthening the viral load. I'm just saying your analogy is flawed and in essence doesn't make much sense in this given context.
Any analogy is, by definition, flawed.

My whole point is that the initial Fox News sourced assertion was just plain, straight out, conspiracy theory, wrong.
 
You are trying to compare a surgical MASK (or otherwise) to a FULL FACE HELMET. Do you even understand the difference? This is why none of us, that possess common sense, can take you seriously. And I for one, can't imagine you have even reached puberty yet.
Remember what I said about first impressions? Remember YOUR first post? Your a piece of shit troll and should continue to be treated as such.
Put me on ignore then.
 
Any analogy is, by definition, flawed.

My whole point is that the initial Fox News sourced assertion was just plain, straight out, conspiracy theory, wrong.

An analogy is flawed by design. My apologies, I meant yours was flawed in that it did not make sense enough to convey your point.

I may have read a different article than you, but what I got from what I read is that continually wearing a mask would cause a bacterial infection in the way that it provides a suitable environment for the bacteria. BP is anaerobic and thrives in a moisture environment. This is what they are claiming that forms inside the mask through moisture and CO2 from your breath. The bacteria would be introduced from an outside source. Your breath provides an ideal environment. Any long term or re-wearing of the mask increases the chance of the wearer becoming infected.

This doesn't mean that science behind it is 100% solidified, but it's certainly not "straight out, conspiracy theory, wrong." At worst it's a hypothesis that would warrant further investigation.
 
When you answer that I will explain the connection between a full face helmet and a surgical masks.
There is none. Zip. ZERO. Other than a form of protection. And that's a strecth. Full face helmets are designed with fresh air intakes. Professional Race car drivers take that further by ducting it in.
Astronauts are wearing a self-contained breathing systems. Neither example, are directly over your mouth and nose. To continue, the professionals utilizing said examples are not required to wear them ALL day, EVERY day. Last time I checked, drivers race about once a week, not all year and practice and qualls are not ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. I won't evem go into astronauts because that's just stupid.
You also seem to be incapable of distinguishing between MASK, and SURGICAL MASK.
Put me on ignore then.
Ignore is for little bitches that cry to the mods all the time. I enjoy witnessing your stupidity.

We now return to our regular scheduled program:
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I see what you were trying to go for, but unfortunately that's not a very good analogy given either the type of mask or the context one would wear it.

Except for the surgeon which I've already discussed, the other examples have built in mechanisms that would prevent the wearer from rebreathing their exhalation. A racing helmet has a forced air system that well... forces air across their face. Very similar to a PAPR. A motorcycle helmet also forces air across the riders face via vents across the nose and mouth area, just in a different mechanical way. Astronauts are fed oxygen while wearing the helmet. You should also note that in those three examples the helmet is not in direct contact with the wearer's face like a mask, surgical or otherwise. Along with the built in mechanisms this provides enough extra room for any exhalation to not be trapped near the face to be breathed back in.

Along with this the extra room and forced air mechanisms in place would expel any incoming particulates, for example aerosols containing bacteria and viruses, or the pathogen itself from entering the wearers body. Similar to a PAPR.

In the instance of a surgical mask, it's the clean environment that would help prevent and airborne pathogens from entering the body. The surgeon would be more at risk from bloodborne pathogens within the patient.

No, I'm not disputing your claim that rebreathing your own exhalation would cause a bacterial infection. A bacterial infection would not just appear in your breath out of nowhere. You'd have to be infected already or it come from an outside source. Rebreathing your own exhalation already containing a pathogen may exacerbate your infection by reintroducing the infection and/or strengthening the viral load. I'm just saying your analogy is flawed and in essence doesn't make much sense in this given context.
If there is any risk of exposure to airborne disease....the Surgeon will put on an N95 mask in place of the simple surgical mask.
 
Did you read my post just above yours?

Tell me, why does wearing a mask open you up to bacterial pneumonia? When you answer that I will explain the connection between a full face helmet and a surgical masks.
I think folks who reuse the surgical masks or fabric masks.....may be ones that are at elevated risk for pneumonia....because it would be similar to breathing through your 3 day old shitty underwear!

If you are not a moron, you change out the masks after using them..simple..
 
An analogy is flawed by design. My apologies, I meant yours was flawed in that it did not make sense enough to convey your point.

I may have read a different article than you, but what I got from what I read is that continually wearing a mask would cause a bacterial infection in the way that it provides a suitable environment for the bacteria. BP is anaerobic and thrives in a moisture environment. This is what they are claiming that forms inside the mask through moisture and CO2 from your breath. The bacteria would be introduced from an outside source. Your breath provides an ideal environment. Any long term or re-wearing of the mask increases the chance of the wearer becoming infected.

This doesn't mean that science behind it is 100% solidified, but it's certainly not "straight out, conspiracy theory, wrong." At worst it's a hypothesis that would warrant further investigation.
Sure, you can wear a mask incorrectly (too long, re-use, etc) which *may* have adverse effects.

The initial assertion was "wear a mask = get pneumonia. Full stop, no exceptions". Which is an exaggeration beyond sense.
 
There is none. Zip. ZERO. Other that a form of protection. And that's a strecth. Full face helmets are designed with fresh air intakes. Professional Race car drivers take that further by ducting it in.
Astronauts are wearing a self-contained breathing systems. Neither example, are directly over your mouth and nose. To continue, the professionals utilizing said examples are not required to wear them ALL day, EVERY day. Last time I checked, drivers race about once a week, not all year and practice and qualls are not ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. I won't evem go into astronauts because that's just stupid.
You also seem to be incapable of distinguishing between MASK, and SURGICAL MASK.
Answer. The. Question.

Then I'll explain it to you.
 
There is none. Zip. ZERO. Other that a form of protection. And that's a strecth. Full face helmets are designed with fresh air intakes. Professional Race car drivers take that further by ducting it in.
Astronauts are wearing a self-contained breathing systems. Neither example, are directly over your mouth and nose. To continue, the professionals utilizing said examples are not required to wear them ALL day, EVERY day. Last time I checked, drivers race about once a week, not all year and practice and qualls are not ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. I won't evem go into astronauts because that's just stupid.
You also seem to be incapable of distinguishing between MASK, and SURGICAL MASK.

Ignore is for little bitches that cry to the mods all the time. I enjoy witnessing your stupidity.

We now return to our regular scheduled program:
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That raises the question. Do you think the moon landing was faked?
 
Tell you what. Answer MY 3 questions asked to you about your first post, and then we will go from there.

I really don't have an opinion on that. But I can tell you your birth sure as fuck was.
I fully stand by my first post. Too many cops killing too many innocent citizens. Time to muzzle them.

Ok, I answered...your turn.
 
I fully stand by my first post. Too many cops killing too many innocent citizens. Time to muzzle them.

Ok, I answered...your turn.
You didn't answer shit Donn...I mean sir.
I asked you 3 specific questions. Your statement above does not answer them.
Thanks for playing.
 
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