Final FORTIN MESHUGGAH Preorder

[midnightlaundry]

LOL, not taking it personally.. I don't give a shit because I don't own one or plan or owning one.

I just dropped into a 3 page thread about an amp thinking it must be the bomb only to find a bunch of middle age cork sniffers with upset manginas, splitting hairs about shit that's non of their business..

This place is over the hill..

 

[Meeotch]

There's nothing wrong with expecting transparency when you're spending a lot of money. Hell, I just bought a used PRS on reverb in overall excellent condition, but upon receiving it, I immediately noticed some small chips on the side of the fretboard that were not described in the listing. That's fucking frustrating...

But not a deal beaker. I would have bought the guitar even if I had known about the micro damage. But having to find out about it after the fact leaves a sour taste. I'd bet most peeps would have bought Fortin's amp regardless of this detail, but the lack of transparency upfront is a legitimate reason to be a whiney bitch

 

[jasonP]

I think very highly of Mike and for him always helping me on both mods and my build. I was very interested in buying this amp but very glad I didn’t after seeing how it was built and the circuit. Very disappointing compared to the prototypes. I followed the FB page and thought him and his team built the amps, I didn’t see anything saying different. Still would consider other offerings from him just can really see how one may be upset over this.

 

[DeathbyButterslax]

I love mine, super brutal

How does it compare to the butterslax?

Honestly the voicings are really not that different but I expected that (hell I kinda wanted that). The Meshuggah is tighter, clearer, and the gain is more usable. So for metal (which I bought it for not to do 80s glam rock) i think one of the best amps I’ve ever played, and is the winner of the two. It also takes boosts extremely well and I love boosting amps, I don’t care if I’m straight in, I’d rather boost it

I do however like the bit of sag and punch from the Slax a little more if I’m just throwing down chords for hard rock, but the Fortin is a chug machine.

Now I need a head switcher to make it more like a 4 Channel beast between the two

 

[psychodave]

I love mine, super brutal

How does it compare to the butterslax?

Honestly the voicings are really not that different but I expected that (hell I kinda wanted that). The Meshuggah is tighter, clearer, and the gain is more usable. So for metal (which I bought it for not to do 80s glam rock) i think one of the best amps I’ve ever played, and is the winner of the two. It also takes boosts extremely well and I love boosting amps, I don’t care if I’m straight in, I’d rather boost it

I do however like the bit of sag and punch from the Slax a little more if I’m just throwing down chords for hard rock, but the Fortin is a chug machine.

Now I need a head switcher to make it more like a 4 Channel beast between the two

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

 

[scottosan]

I love mine, super brutal

How does it compare to the butterslax?

Honestly the voicings are really not that different but I expected that (hell I kinda wanted that). The Meshuggah is tighter, clearer, and the gain is more usable. So for metal (which I bought it for not to do 80s glam rock) i think one of the best amps I’ve ever played, and is the winner of the two. It also takes boosts extremely well and I love boosting amps, I don’t care if I’m straight in, I’d rather boost it

I do however like the bit of sag and punch from the Slax a little more if I’m just throwing down chords for hard rock, but the Fortin is a chug machine.

Now I need a head switcher to make it more like a 4 Channel beast between the two

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

 

[maddnotez]

I cant see how you can compare Fortin and Friedman. They are both gear companies and that's as far as it goes.

IMO Friedman is successful off his years of hard work and networking with some of the top dogs. Has anything you want in stock at any place you would go to while Fortin is successful off marketing schemes, extremely limited quantities and internet hype.

Both extremely talented individuals but I appreciate the way Friedman runs the business side of things.

Since the Fortins are so limited how could someone NOT think he was building them himself? I dont care either way but to trash musicians on a gear forum for thinking that is pretty much a dick move.

 

[DeathbyButterslax]

I love mine, super brutal

How does it compare to the butterslax?

Honestly the voicings are really not that different but I expected that (hell I kinda wanted that). The Meshuggah is tighter, clearer, and the gain is more usable. So for metal (which I bought it for not to do 80s glam rock) i think one of the best amps I’ve ever played, and is the winner of the two. It also takes boosts extremely well and I love boosting amps, I don’t care if I’m straight in, I’d rather boost it

I do however like the bit of sag and punch from the Slax a little more if I’m just throwing down chords for hard rock, but the Fortin is a chug machine.

Now I need a head switcher to make it more like a 4 Channel beast between the two

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

Since I’m in Canada, it’s tough to want to consider modding amps. Unless it’s simple enough and safe enough that the local tech can do, who is pretty reputable. Also since it’s 100% reversible, does the depth control go onto another one of the existing pots?

 

[FourT6and2]

I built mine with the depth control. That, along with changing the NFB slightly really improved this amp for someone who doesn't down tune.

My project chassis has room for the depth control. But on the actual Meshuggah amp, you'd probably have to use one of the speaker out jacks for it. Or, you could just make it a fixed depth with a resistor and a cap and not use a pot.

4700pF for a deeper low end with that bit of sag you're talking about.
2200pF for more thump but with more mid-range emphasis and less pronounced lows.
Then select a resistor value in place of the pot.
You can do it this way to keep it more simple and not have to make new holes in the chassis or replace a speaker jack.

 

[FourT6and2]

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

Looking at the Atomica schematic, the two are 99.99% identical.

I guess you could call a hybrid the "Atomiggah"

 

[psychodave]

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

Looking at the Atomica schematic, the two are 99.99% identical.

...and Metro built the Atomicas.

 

[FourT6and2]

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

Looking at the Atomica schematic, the two are 99.99% identical.

...and Metro built the Atomicas.

Atomiggah

 

[scottosan]

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

Looking at the Atomica schematic, the two are 99.99% identical.

...and Metro built the Atomicas.

it's seems like George is missing out on a direct sale.marketing opportunity by not offering his own Jose build

 

[lespaul6]

^^not to mention Marshall itself- missing out on a very simple mod to the JCM 800/ 1959 reissues

 

[Mailman1971]

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

Looking at the Atomica schematic, the two are 99.99% identical.

...and Metro built the Atomicas.

it's seems like George is missing out on a direct sale.marketing opportunity by not offering his own Jose build

That was my thought as well.
I do remember a few years back he put out a video showing an Amp
He designed and was selling. But never heard much more after that.

 

[FourT6and2]

You could add a depth circuit to the Fortin to get a bit more low end sag. It’s also 100% reversible... and since the amp is Point to point, it is super easy to do.

But then it would be an Atomica

Looking at the Atomica schematic, the two are 99.99% identical.

...and Metro built the Atomicas.

it's seems like George is missing out on a direct sale.marketing opportunity by not offering his own Jose build

That was my thought as well.
I do remember a few years back he put out a video showing an Amp
He designed and was selling. But never heard much more after that.

The Metro-Plex?

 

[rottingcorpse]

^^not to mention Marshall itself- missing out on a very simple mod to the JCM 800/ 1959 reissues

Best post in this thread!

 

[scottosan]

^^not to mention Marshall itself- missing out on a very simple mod to the JCM 800/ 1959 reissues

Best post in this thread!

Because there amps have been designed by their finance department for the past 30 years

 

[DeathbyButterslax]

I built mine with the depth control. That, along with changing the NFB slightly really improved this amp for someone who doesn't down tune.

My project chassis has room for the depth control. But on the actual Meshuggah amp, you'd probably have to use one of the speaker out jacks for it. Or, you could just make it a fixed depth with a resistor and a cap and not use a pot.

4700pF for a deeper low end with that bit of sag you're talking about.
2200pF for more thump but with more mid-range emphasis and less pronounced lows.
Then select a resistor value in place of the pot.
You can do it this way to keep it more simple and not have to make new holes in the chassis or replace a speaker jack.

If it could be done that would be very cool, but I could live without it if it removes my warranty

 

[FourT6and2]

I built mine with the depth control. That, along with changing the NFB slightly really improved this amp for someone who doesn't down tune.

My project chassis has room for the depth control. But on the actual Meshuggah amp, you'd probably have to use one of the speaker out jacks for it. Or, you could just make it a fixed depth with a resistor and a cap and not use a pot.

4700pF for a deeper low end with that bit of sag you're talking about.
2200pF for more thump but with more mid-range emphasis and less pronounced lows.
Then select a resistor value in place of the pot.
You can do it this way to keep it more simple and not have to make new holes in the chassis or replace a speaker jack.

If it could be done that would be very cool, but I could live without it if it removes my warranty

Yeah, then I wouldn't mess with it. Or ask Fortin to do it for you.