NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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You're right on the classical definition.
Except that's not what it does.
It forces your cells to produce the antigens (mutagen)
It does not contain any itself.
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Geo
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Sharp as a beach ball ........
Dan Gleesak
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In a way that is quicker to both test and study. I think it’s foolish to not call it a vaccine just because it’s an improvement. We’d all be fucked with out improvements in medicine over time
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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Is it foolish to call the colors yellow and blue, green, just because when combined they make the color green?
Dan Gleesak
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If making green is the desired result, I reckon whatever colors make it the most consistently are the right colors. Green is green
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NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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Well, I'm not trying to argue with you or change your mind.
Just trying to give a perspective.
Green, blue, and yellow are all colors as classical vaccines and mutagens in this context are treatments, but aren't the same method of treatment is all.
Dan Gleesak
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But an mrna vaccine is still a vaccine. It’s why they call it an mRNA vaccine and not something else.
What this has to do with anything we were previously discussing, I have no idea.
But the Covid vaccine was indeed a vaccine, and a very good one
Dan Gleesak
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Color is pretty subjective anyways. Some people can’t distinguish green from red. Blue is a relatively “new” color all things being considered, and when in reference to light, brown doesn’t exist because it’s just dark orange.
Bad Brain
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FWIW the CDC's definition of 'vaccine' was changed in August 2021 from "a product that produces immunity" to "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response". Make of it what you will, but I understand it as the recognition that the MRNA injections are not vaccines in the traditional sense, and would be better considered therapeutics.
Dan Gleesak
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For sure. It’s distilled and streamlined from a “traditional” vaccine, but still a vaccine. Medicine getting better is usually seen as a good thing lol
Then again there are still people who say “if it’s a vaccine then why did some people still get covid”, so that’s what we are working with here
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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They call it a vaccine because they didn't want to scare people.
mRNA treatments didn't fit the definition of a vaccine and weren't referred to as a vaccine prior to 2021.
They were known as mutagens.
The J&J treatment was the only one of them that was a vaccine.
A truck is not a car, but they are both automobiles.
Not sure where you're getting you're information from, but you're wrong.
What this has to do with is that you said that other people were claiming it wasn't a vaccine in the past and on the last page and that they were wrong.
They weren't wrong. You are.
Floyd Eye
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Never heard a flu shot called anything but a flu shot. At some point they decided to change the definition of vaccine. Sorta like they changed the definition of insurrection.
shar-vell Dan
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NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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Anything and everything to retain the illusion of power and control in a chaotic world, I suppose.
Floyd Eye
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Honestly I'm really sick of it. I just want people to leave me alone. I live in the middle of the sticks and I still can't go anywhere without there being a million stupid mother fuckers. I think the world has passed the tipping point. I know how it sounds, but the biggest problem with covid is it didn't kill anywhere near enough people. No offense to anyone who lost loved ones to it. I did too.
Dan Gleesak
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Close but no cigar. I was commenting on the backlash against Covid and that it all stemmed from Trump. Trump called it a vaccine, and he rushed it through. Whether you want to split hairs to make yourself feel better or not, my actual point still stands.
Personally I feel it is a vaccine, and the medical community agrees with me.
Factually, it was passed as quickly as it was, which is what people take offense to, under Trumps watch.
im here all night for any other cherry picked tangents you would like to take
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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You really are an idiot. Never have I met someone that wasn't a teenager who like to argue just to argue. You aren't right and no medical professional agrees with your asinine statement. There was no cherry picking, you literally said it. Perhaps come back when you grow up.