For all you "VACCINE IS CAUSING BILLIONS OF DEATHS!!!!" People......

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Then please explain why the death rate per day for these 3 years, per CDC...

2020 USA deaths-9202 per day.
2021 USA deaths-9491 per day.
2022 USA deaths-8969 per day.

It would seem that by the beginning of 2022 most people have been vaccinated, yet where are the 'increased deaths' related to the vaccine??
There aren't any...in fact, the death rate WENT DOWN.
For the most part they are fairly consistent...but this doesn't fit that anti vaccine theory does it?
Nah.
 
Racerxrated said:
Then please explain why the death rate per day for these 3 years, per CDC...

2020 USA deaths-9202 per day.
2021 USA deaths-9491 per day.
2022 USA deaths-8969 per day.

It would seem that by the beginning of 2022 most people have been vaccinated, yet where are the 'increased deaths' related to the vaccine??
There aren't any...in fact, the death rate WENT DOWN.
For the most part they are fairly consistent...but this doesn't fit that anti vaccine theory does it?
Nah.
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I guess the DiMeola thread is really bothering you.

Vaccines have always presented a risk of injury. It's extra risky to take a vaccine that hasn't had extensive long term testing. You have to be fear ridden, gullible, or just weak to have gone along with the extensive pressure people faced to vaccinate. I personally know several people who didn't have a good time swallowing the vax kool aid.

You don't take unnecessary risks health wise if you are already in good health. You got sold a false bill of goods that was ineffective at best, detrimental at worst. Free, worth exactly what you paid for it!
 
Aynirar27 said:
Barely anyone made it past their 40s before modern meds though
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I agree. It's a bunch of corporate profiteering and dope dealing though. So I don't like the way the system is operated. Therefore I will participate as little as possible, none, even.
 
VonBonfire said:
I agree. It's a bunch of corporate profiteering and dope dealing though. So I don't like the way the system is operated. Therefore I will participate as little as possible, none, even.
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That I can agree with. I just feel there is a group of people out there that think “the vaccine was pushed on us, therefore it must be dangerous”.
And I don’t think that is the case. Was it pushed on us? Absolutely
But that doesn’t mean the science and the medicine is dangerous or bad for us. It also doesn’t mean that the people who took it were wrong for wanting to protect themselves and their families.
I’m sure a lot of people took the vaccine begrudgingly to keep their jobs or whatever, but I imagine most people took it because vaccines are a good thing.
 
The dumb asses here pivot that by saying that the deaths ARE COMING. Not here yet although some like to claim they are, but they sure will be. CCN told me 3-4 years is about when the shit is going to hit the fan. I've marked my calendar. It feel sorry for the misguided souls whose brains are so dysfunctional.
 
Detractors do themselves a disservice by making hyperbolic predictions about covid vaccine deaths. Clearly people are not dropping left and right, although it's not hard to find someone negatively affected, and I know of at least one person who was vaccinated and died in the middle of the night "Suddenly" in their 60's. It's established that the vaccine can cause clotting and myocarditis, two complications that could lead to a sudden death, so it's not unreasonable to make a probable connection. Various pathologists have demonstrated this to be the case. Even governments are at this point officially tallying vax deaths. Obviously though, no one in power is interested in looking too deeply into the matter, as the've bet the farm on this crap, politically and professionally. And all the experts claiming otherwise are "discredited." See how that works?
 
denialist said:
People do themselves a disservice by making hyperbolic predictions about covid vaccine deaths. Clearly people are not dropping left and right, although it's not hard to find someone negatively affected, and I know of at least one person who was vaccinated and died in the middle of the night "Suddenly" in their 60's. It's established that the vaccine can cause clotting and myocarditis, two complications that could lead to a sudden death, so it's not hard to make a probable connection. Various pathologists have determined this to be the case. Even governments are at this point officially tallying vax deaths. Obviously though, no one in power is interested in looking too deeply into the matter, as the've bet the farm on this crap, politically and professionally. And all the experts claiming otherwise are "discredited." See how that works?
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Very true, but not unique to the Covid vaccine. I’m not trying to make light of anyone’s death, but adverse effects, including death, fromvaccines are nothing new and studies have been done on them long before Covid.
It just seems people are angry about a lot of things and it manifests into “people are dying!”. I’m just not convinced this was any more dangerous than any other vaccine and it diminishes the good that it has done for the world
 
I hear that when you die in a plane crash it's usually from the initial impact causing your internal organs to rip apart from all the connecting arteries and veins, and that you start massive internal hemorrhaging a millisecond before your body is twisted, mangled, torn asunder, and burned beyond recognition. In some cases the cabin depressurizes prior to the crash so your lungs just explode in your chest as you instantly suffocate before all that other stuff happens.

When was the last time you flew?
 
Aynirar27 said:
Was it pushed on us? Absolutely
But that doesn’t mean the science and the medicine is dangerous or bad for us. It also doesn’t mean that the people who took it were wrong for wanting to protect themselves and their families.
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It doesn't really matter if it's dangerous to me or not. There was too much coercion for it not to be suspicious. And there is the money grift aspect. Most of the medical field on the take. Thinking you can threaten people's jobs over it? Get real. Over my dead body. It seems naive to me for a person in good health to take a new relatively untested medical treatment but most people caved because people have a pack mentality so mass psychosis can take over in a fear driven environment. Their lack of hesitation cost all of us.
 
VonBonfire said:
I guess the DiMeola thread is really bothering you.

Vaccines have always presented a risk of injury. It's extra risky to take a vaccine that hasn't had extensive long term testing. You have to be fear ridden, gullible, or just weak to have gone along with the extensive pressure people faced to vaccinate. I personally know several people who didn't have a good time swallowing the vax kool aid.

You don't take unnecessary risks health wise if you are already in good health. You got sold a false bill of goods that was ineffective at best, detrimental at worst. Free, worth exactly what you paid for it!
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Nah, I think I got the point across that you noobs who only join to talk Qtarded nonsense in the OT, need to keep it here in the OT.
Any medical procedure comes with risk. Vaccines are no different. However, the risks are very small. I understand the pause people might have in one that didn’t have years of testing first. But, people were dying from Covid. One facility I worked at, lost 50% of their population after Covid entered the building. So this was rushed for good reason; we had no choice. The rest of your post is just your opinion, nothing more. I could care less if someone gets/doesn’t get the vaccine. But the stats I listed prove that the death rate here over the past 3 years has remained pretty consistent, which proves that the vaccinated are NOT dying in droves like the Qtards here swear is happening.
 
Racerxrated said:
Nah, I think I got the point across that you noobs who only join to talk Qtarded nonsense in the OT, need to keep it here in the OT.
Any medical procedure comes with risk. Vaccines are no different. However, the risks are very small. I understand the pause people might have in one that didn’t have years of testing first. But, people were dying from Covid. One facility I worked at, lost 50% of their population after Covid entered the building. So this was rushed for good reason; we had no choice. The rest of your post is just your opinion, nothing more. I could care less if someone gets/doesn’t get the vaccine. But the stats I listed prove that the death rate here over the past 3 years has remained pretty consistent, which proves that the vaccinated are NOT dying in droves like the Qtards here swear is happening.
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You didn't do anything.
 
denialist said:
Detractors do themselves a disservice by making hyperbolic predictions about covid vaccine deaths. Clearly people are not dropping left and right, although it's not hard to find someone negatively affected, and I know of at least one person who was vaccinated and died in the middle of the night "Suddenly" in their 60's. It's established that the vaccine can cause clotting and myocarditis, two complications that could lead to a sudden death, so it's not unreasonable to make a probable connection. Various pathologists have demonstrated this to be the case. Even governments are at this point officially tallying vax deaths. Obviously though, no one in power is interested in looking too deeply into the matter, as the've bet the farm on this crap, politically and professionally. And all the experts claiming otherwise are "discredited." See how that works?
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People have been dying suddenly since the beginning of time. This is nothing new. People that are in incredible health die suddenly. Maybe they had a massive mi, with no warning symptoms? Aneurism? Those go undetected until they burst. These things happen and for years long before Covid. The JJ vaccine does have a risk of clotting but the other two do not, to my knowledge anyway. Covid itself can cause myocarditis, and some can have it permanently as long haulers. I had it after Covid…but fortunately it went away. I haven’t had any issue since. I know of no one that has had any kind of clotting issue, be it PE, DVT, TIA or stroke….and I work with 130+ people that were forced to get it(I do not endorse that btw) and they would announce it to the world if they had any issues.
Regardless, the death rate remains pretty consistent and that pretty much disproves the ‘vaccinated are dying in droves’ BS.
 
Racerxrated said:
Regardless, the death rate remains pretty consistent and that pretty much disproves the ‘vaccinated are dying in droves’ BS.
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Yeah I would never suggest that people are dying in droves. But regarding the stats, if covid was causing excess deaths in 2020, then presumably we should not have excess deaths in 2021, when the vaccines were rolled out, or 2022 — yet as you pointed out the rates did not vary that much (~-5% for 2021-2022). Can you link the source?
 
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