For only 78k.....

[mooncobra]

....and here's a response by a guy who restores these and newer Marshalls....

"The circuit board looks new and most of the components on the board are new.
It may have been original, once but so heavily restored it is hard to see what could have been original
Most of the resistors are from late 60s, the mustards new, the input jacks are a type that Marshall did not use.
It's all been done well and has the right iron and tubes so probably sounds pretty good.
Screws on the logo are modern (and chewed up already). MG have some really nice repro coffin logos..............."

So, while the most important things (transformers) are OG it's clearly been messed with and not worth even close to the asking price.

Good idea taking it to Marshall forum. There are some guys over there who have vast amounts of knowledge on anything vintage Marshall. The price is nuts.

 

[SBlue]

the input jacks are a type that Marshall did not use.

Sorry, but whoever said this is closer to Jupiter than to be a"Marshall expert".

 

[braintheory]

if you bought a dirty shirley or germino or metropoulos jtm 45, loaded it with hand picked glass and added a proper cab/broken in speakers you’d spend 6-7k and own a modern reliable rig that in many cases would outclass the real deal gambler special in tone.

I’ve tried things like that (couldn’t get rid of my Metro fast enough btw) and IME no way. Even the very best tubes I have only can take an amp so far. I could use all my various vintage Mullards, GEC’s, Bugle Boys, RFT’s, etc into amps like those, have generic JJ’s in my vintage Marshall (which it actually currently has lol), AB the amps through the same cabs of mine with pre-rola 20w GB’s and I’m sorry those amps get slaughtered by the Marshall to my ears and imo tonally outclassed in every way, especially with being raw, organic, warm, tonally mature vs the more filtered out bland sound of those amps (comparatively sterile and less reactive/lively to nuances in playing). It’s classic example of comparing fresh squeezed to from concentrate oj. Same flavor, different levels of quality

 

[Racerxrated]

Sorry, but whoever said this is closer to Jupiter than to be a"Marshall expert".

Actually, he's very well respected and 1 of 3 guys on the Marshall forum that really do know what they're talking about. He also has collected over the years NOS Mustards, Daly caps, OG transformers from the mid 60s on and can restore a mid 60s Marshall with the correct parts. Those jacks probably weren't used during those years...he also has the period correct pots, jacks etc.
The guys on that forum with serious collector grade stuff, will send him their 60s Plexis for help with restoration.

 

[SBlue]

Actually, he's very well respected and 1 of 3 guys on the Marshall forum that really do know what they're talking about. He also has collected over the years NOS Mustards, Daly caps, OG transformers from the mid 60s on and can restore a mid 60s Marshall with the correct parts. Those jacks probably weren't used during those years...he also has the period correct pots, jacks etc.
The guys on that forum with serious collector grade stuff, will send him their 60s Plexis for help with restoration.

Sorry again, and let me be clear first... I'm not doubting you. You're just forwarding his response. So please, don't take it personally, because I'm in no way trying to attack you.
But he is 100% wrong about the jacks. And that's what I know off without even doing internet research. I've seen, personally, not through internet, those in the very early Marshalls, and him being the expert he is, and not knowing that is very scary, to say the least.
Anyway, let him be right and everyone will be happy.
But rest assured... he is wrong.

 

[mentoneman]

I’ve tried things like that (couldn’t get rid of my Metro fast enough btw) and IME no way. Even the very best tubes I have only can take an amp so far. I could use all my various vintage Mullards, GEC’s, Bugle Boys, RFT’s, etc into amps like those, have generic JJ’s in my vintage Marshall (which it actually currently has lol), AB the amps through the same cabs of mine with pre-rola 20w GB’s and I’m sorry those amps get slaughtered by the Marshall to my ears and imo tonally outclassed in every way, especially with being raw, organic, warm, tonally mature vs the more filtered out bland sound of those amps (comparatively sterile and less reactive/lively to nuances in playing). It’s classic example of comparing fresh squeezed to from concentrate oj. Same flavor, different levels of quality

no worries and i don’t disagree with your experience.

my friend has a collection of old jtm 45s like the one in the pic. we tried them side by side with a dirty shirley, a synergy ds module into the dirty shirley loop, and my peacemaker. i love the real jtm 45 kt66 tone and feel. it’s glassier, stringier, and can be very woman tone touch sensitive but at the end of the night i would be totally happy with a dirty shirley to cover that zone. i have a ds module for that reason. i’ve also played the mojave plexi 45 special edition with the radio spares tranny and NOS gold lion kt66s. killer. only heard clips of metro and germino…

my peacemaker is different animal, voiced after a plexi superbass, and Vic/Mojave did the hg mod and tried to give it a little more of a jtm 45 vibe for me. it’s great too but to your point it’s a bit stiffer and less dynamic than the real deal. bottom line for me is the differences in tone and feel i’ve experienced are too minimal to ever warrant the prices the vintage market asks.

 

[braintheory]

no worries and i don’t disagree with your experience.

my friend has a collection of old jtm 45s like the one in the pic. we tried them side by side with a dirty shirley, a synergy ds module into the dirty shirley loop, and my peacemaker. i love the real jtm 45 kt66 tone and feel. it’s glassier, stringier, and can be very woman tone touch sensitive but at the end of the night i would be totally happy with a dirty shirley to cover that zone. i have a ds module for that reason. i’ve also played the mojave plexi 45 special edition with the radio spares tranny and NOS gold lion kt66s. killer. only heard clips of metro and germino…

my peacemaker is different animal, voiced after a plexi superbass, and Vic/Mojave did the hg mod and tried to give it a little more of a jtm 45 vibe for me. it’s great too but to your point it’s a bit stiffer and less dynamic than the real deal. bottom line for me is the differences in tone and feel i’ve experienced are too minimal to ever warrant the prices the vintage market asks.

Yeah I get that. All depends what one wants I guess. I'm not at all practical in my approach and try to just get as good a tone as I can with cutting as few corners as I can afford to do (still lots of stuff out of my reach lol, including those JTM45's), so my points are always catered to guys who go more about it that way. Getting close approximations/good alternatives just isn't very exciting for me. For that reason I don't own any Dumble or JTM45 type amps because I can't afford the real deal, but I've also been spoiled by trying them and not satisfied with the alternatives I've tried. I also find that those "small" differences seem to get bigger and bigger the older and more experienced I get lol, but sadly the price differences are usually huge for those sound differences however we hear them

There are some recent made amps I've got fwiw that I enjoy similarly well to my favorite vintage in their own way, but most of them are more of their own thing rather than a clear Marshall, Fender, Vox or Boogie flavor