Fortin Natas review!!!

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Hey guys! I'm the owner of the Meathead that you have seen in the vids from FAL Studios. Jocke and I have put the Natas through its paces this last week. Here're some thoughts after those encounters:

The Natas has surprised me in many ways. When I first heard the description of it and the clips of the Hulk mod. I was expecting a fire breather. That it is, but what I didn't expect was how versatile it turned out to be. The Girth and Grind knobs are what takes this amp from being a great amp to one of the best I've played. Now you never have to walk away thinking: hmmm this guitar usually sounds good, but in this amp... With these controls you can tailor the guitars bass and treble response when going into the preamp. Every guitar from my PAF loaded Les Paul to Fredrik in Meshuggah's 8-string sounded great.

The high gain is ridiculously good, but that is no surprise, but the thing that really is, is that it also has a GREAT clean AND crunch. The midrange is fat, earthy and open. I was really expecting the Natas to be bright, tight and not very warm sounding when not in uber metal mode, but it wasn't- very cool! When diming the clean channel and playing some Black Crowes riff, it was as good sounding as many so called Marshall boutique amps out there. It will not out Marshall a good Marshall or put Fortin's Cali mod or Friedman's stuff out of business, but it's very impressing never the less!

When setting it for high gain we could get my sissy sounding PAF equiped LP to sound like a Metal Monster with just setting the tone controls on noon an tailoring the tone with the G and G knobs. When playing with regular "metal" guitars with EMG's, detuned etc... it sounded fantastic.

I've played Engl's, Diezels, Boogies etc.... but no amp I've played have had that combination of attack, string separation and pure evilness while still being extremely musical as the Natas. The chunk factor is off the scale!!!

/Ulf
 
Any way to compare the Natas with the Dar Forza at FAL as well? It seems like you guys have this awesome propensity for dialing in amps tight as hell, well done :thumbsup:
 
warhead78":1wqbifno said:
Any way to compare the Natas with the Dar Forza at FAL as well? It seems like you guys have this awesome propensity for dialing in amps tight as hell, well done :thumbsup:

No formula for dialing in the tightness on the natas, it is in the design and transformers.

Glad to see the exact things being said across the Atlantic that we have been saying :thumbsup:




Oh yeah, for you guys now wanting one...........................























Get in line bitches :lol: :LOL:
 
Scott, Mike said it's even better than when we played it... How is that even possible? :lol: :LOL:
 
warhead78":28rxne99 said:
Any way to compare the Natas with the Dar Forza at FAL as well? It seems like you guys have this awesome propensity for dialing in amps tight as hell, well done :thumbsup:

I haven't played the DAR amp. I'll let Jocke comment on that.
 
diagrammatiks":xmmyofda said:
How dry is the amp?

It's tight as hell at the same time as being very juicy to play, so I didn't perceive it as dry at all, YMMV though.
 
warhead78":3lb0cpqd said:
Any way to compare the Natas with the Dar Forza at FAL as well? It seems like you guys have this awesome propensity for dialing in amps tight as hell, well done :thumbsup:

I'd say that they are completely different beasts of joy. ;) It doesn't have the 6rind and 6irth controls, but it has the contour knob that does a whole lot of goodies with the character, and lights and two more channels, and three different voicings on the clean channel, and... Look at the back. You could say that the Forza is the old man, young at heart but experienced enough to be able to make a lot of sounds by a flick of a switch, while the Natas is a young punk who says "fuck you old timer" and do it's thing with relentless energy, and you can fool it to do different stuff, even though he doesn't like to. ;)

Apples or Oranges, both are awesome amps. What will you use it for? Thrash Metal or as a center in your rack?

tokyo tapes":3lb0cpqd said:
The Natas has surprised me in many ways. When I first heard the description of it and the clips of the Hulk mod. I was expecting a fire breather. That it is, but what I didn't expect was how versatile it turned out to be. The Girth and Grind knobs are what takes this amp from being a great amp to one of the best I've played. Now you never have to walk away thinking: hmmm this guitar usually sounds good, but in this amp... With these controls you can tailor the guitars bass and treble response when going into the preamp. Every guitar from my PAF loaded Les Paul to Fredrik in Meshuggah's 8-string sounded great.

Maybe I should put you on Youtube? I mean, so people can hear for themselves, one for channel 1 and one for channel 2. ;)
 
lolzgreg":vottrmji said:
Scott, Mike said it's even better than when we played it... How is that even possible? :lol: :LOL:

With a soldering iron and a devil on his shoulder ;)
 
diagrammatiks":habis5hw said:
How dry is the amp?

It started off a bit dry (IMO) when the NJ guys first tried it at the amp fest in June. Since then its been tweaked to be much juicier AND a bit tighter tracking at the same time. Mike knew of several different parameters to tweak internally to get those results.
 
tokyo tapes":1qw8wwvv said:
Hey guys! I'm the owner of the Meathead that you have seen in the vids from FAL Studios. Jocke and I have put the Natas through its paces this last week. Here're some thoughts after those encounters:

The Natas has surprised me in many ways. When I first heard the description of it and the clips of the Hulk mod. I was expecting a fire breather. That it is, but what I didn't expect was how versatile it turned out to be. The Girth and Grind knobs are what takes this amp from being a great amp to one of the best I've played. Now you never have to walk away thinking: hmmm this guitar usually sounds good, but in this amp... With these controls you can tailor the guitars bass and treble response when going into the preamp. Every guitar from my PAF loaded Les Paul to Fredrik in Meshuggah's 8-string sounded great.

The high gain is ridiculously good, but that is no surprise, but the thing that really is, is that it also has a GREAT clean AND crunch. The midrange is fat, earthy and open. I was really expecting the Natas to be bright, tight and not very warm sounding when not in uber metal mode, but it wasn't- very cool! When diming the clean channel and playing some Black Crowes riff, it was as good sounding as many so called Marshall boutique amps out there. It will not out Marshall a good Marshall or put Fortin's Cali mod or Friedman's stuff out of business, but it's very impressing never the less!

When setting it for high gain we could get my sissy sounding PAF equiped LP to sound like a Metal Monster with just setting the tone controls on noon an tailoring the tone with the G and G knobs. When playing with regular "metal" guitars with EMG's, detuned etc... it sounded fantastic.

I've played Engl's, Diezels, Boogies etc.... but no amp I've played have had that combination of attack, string separation and pure evilness while still being extremely musical as the Natas. The chunk factor is off the scale!!!

/Ulf

Thanks for the great review! I did enjoy the vids you guys posted. The Natas is a very cool amp ... even at the Ampfest Mike was able to dial in some sweeter liquid lead tones. I think I will get one for my bebop band. :lol: :LOL:
 
Clawfinger":3o7ecu46 said:
warhead78":3o7ecu46 said:
Any way to compare the Natas with the Dar Forza at FAL as well? It seems like you guys have this awesome propensity for dialing in amps tight as hell, well done :thumbsup:

I'd say that they are completely different beasts of joy. ;) It doesn't have the 6rind and 6irth controls, but it has the contour knob that does a whole lot of goodies with the character, and lights and two more channels, and three different voicings on the clean channel, and... Look at the back. You could say that the Forza is the old man, young at heart but experienced enough to be able to make a lot of sounds by a flick of a switch, while the Natas is a young punk who says "fuck you old timer" and do it's thing with relentless energy, and you can fool it to do different stuff, even though he doesn't like to. ;)

Apples or Oranges, both are awesome amps. What will you use it for? Thrash Metal or as a center in your rack?

tokyo tapes":3o7ecu46 said:
The Natas has surprised me in many ways. When I first heard the description of it and the clips of the Hulk mod. I was expecting a fire breather. That it is, but what I didn't expect was how versatile it turned out to be. The Girth and Grind knobs are what takes this amp from being a great amp to one of the best I've played. Now you never have to walk away thinking: hmmm this guitar usually sounds good, but in this amp... With these controls you can tailor the guitars bass and treble response when going into the preamp. Every guitar from my PAF loaded Les Paul to Fredrik in Meshuggah's 8-string sounded great.

Maybe I should put you on Youtube? I mean, so people can hear for themselves, one for channel 1 and one for channel 2. ;)

Hmmm... :scared:
 
thegame":1d3jec8d said:
diagrammatiks":1d3jec8d said:
How dry is the amp?

It started off a bit dry (IMO) when the NJ guys first tried it at the amp fest in June. Since then its been tweaked to be much juicier AND a bit tighter tracking at the same time. Mike knew of several different parameters to tweak internally to get those results.

gah I just need to figure out if i need one of these along with my slo and ul. doh.
 
tokyo tapes":373fwgrt said:
Clawfinger":373fwgrt said:
Maybe I should put you on Youtube? I mean, so people can hear for themselves, one for channel 1 and one for channel 2. ;)

Hmmm... :scared:

Come on, you know you want it! ;)
 
Clawfinger":1n3wwxvm said:
warhead78":1n3wwxvm said:
Any way to compare the Natas with the Dar Forza at FAL as well? It seems like you guys have this awesome propensity for dialing in amps tight as hell, well done :thumbsup:

I'd say that they are completely different beasts of joy. ;) It doesn't have the 6rind and 6irth controls, but it has the contour knob that does a whole lot of goodies with the character, and lights and two more channels, and three different voicings on the clean channel, and... Look at the back. You could say that the Forza is the old man, young at heart but experienced enough to be able to make a lot of sounds by a flick of a switch, while the Natas is a young punk who says "fuck you old timer" and do it's thing with relentless energy, and you can fool it to do different stuff, even though he doesn't like to. ;)

Apples or Oranges, both are awesome amps. What will you use it for? Thrash Metal or as a center in your rack?

tokyo tapes said:
I do metal rhythm and metal rhythm only. It just sounded like you were able to dial in very similar chunky tones on both amps.
 
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