CrystalSky
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I’d advocate for Kiesel over an indo guitar at that price. Not to forget they have questionable work ethics though.
jchrisf
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I meant i bought "a guitar". a EBMM Sterrling LUKE. Its a total workhorse axe. Does it all in one package.
If you can afford what you're looking at buy the damn thing [your guitar] and don't look back.
I just got my 3rd ESP - LTD totally RAD.
"Handtruck" optional.
I really want the GL Desert Eagle.. I've always loved the kamikase but since I'm part American Indian and my great, great grandfather was a chief.. I think I'd prefer the Desert Eagle.
jchrisf
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I'd prefer a reverse ESP headstock but the teardrop is growing on me.
jchrisf
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That's what worries me about Kiesel.
jchrisf
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You helped me find another LTD 24 3/4 scale super strat. Looks like this one still has the volume out of the way but no neckthrough. However, it is roasted maple. Perfect headstock though and cheaper price.
ESP LTD Deluxe MV-1000 Electric Guitar - Pearl White
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/esp-ltd-deluxe-mv-1000-electric-guitar-/m26952000001000
Alpha Stryke
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I struggled w/ the "Kamikaze" thing with Lynch guitars for years as i have WW II family killed in that war. I have come to understand what George
was aiming at was the "spirit warrior" concept of the Kami thing> "Kamikaze" means "divine wind" and the Japanese believed they would be"re-incarnated" if they died for the Emperor. It was their credo. Far from the reality and death and destruction of what really happed.
The "notion" or "motive" of the Kamikaze was pure in essence in keeping with centuries of the Samurai.
Its that "essence" that George was paying "homage".
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Speeddemon
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@jchrisf Have you considered the LTD Horizon Custom '87?
https://www.espguitars.com/products/32061-horizon-custom-87
Roughly the same price and Korean made;
I believe it ticks most of your boxes, except for the mahogany and 22 frets (yet, the AL sig has 24 frets as well). Or did you mean to write 24.75"scale?
Like @itsme said, I loathe the LaRocque sig headstock, but otherwise I love that guitar as well (not so much the color, but
the offset markers, like the old-old Ibanez Petrucci sigs had), since I'm still aching for a really good H-S superstrat.
What's keeping me from getting the LTD Horizon Custom '87 myself, is the fact that I already got an ESP Horizon NTII.
But yeah, if an H-S guitar comes with 24.75" scale and 22 frets (or 24 slanted, with a slanted neck pickup), I'm all game.
For now, I found some cheaper no-name guitar in the perfect color (since one of the real dream guitars is a Hamer Californian Elite in Aztec Gold, but those are insane money these days), that I slapped an ESP decal on for funsies, almost 26" scale (I think someone added the Floyd later, since the routing was done so-so) with 24 frets (the '7667' inlay is on the 22nd fret) and I'm planning to throw in the same neck pickup as the LaRocque (STK-6), and a TB-5 Custom in the bridge.
Having owned a few import Hamer Californians, because the 27 frets (slanted), the neck pickup sits a tad too close to the bridge for my taste, which takes away some of the bigger round, bell-like overtones that a well-positioned neck pickup usually has.
EDIT:
Note that the white MV-1000 you posted also suffers from this re-positioning of the neck pickup! Oh, and while I don't know your taste in neck pickups, I would stay away from the Hot Rails in the neck, if you wanted to play jangly clean parts, although this MV-1000 luckily does have a coil split.
And the SH-14 (or TB-14) is a cool pickup; it's in my ESP.
I experimented a lot with more bassy neck pickups in those Californians, but neither the Dimarzio Air Norton-S or Super Distortion-S gave me the clarity I also wanted, until I tried the Chopper. That one was the best so far.
But as I have a Chopper now in the neck of a Kramer SM-1 (H-S-S), I'm thinking it could use more of the beefy single-coil style, yet noiseless, so that's why I'm considering the Duncan STK-6 Custom Stack Plus for that no-name guitar. Basically it should be a sort of Lynch/DeMartini/LaRocque type of guitar, covering those tones.
https://www.espguitars.com/products/32061-horizon-custom-87
Roughly the same price and Korean made;
I believe it ticks most of your boxes, except for the mahogany and 22 frets (yet, the AL sig has 24 frets as well). Or did you mean to write 24.75"scale?
Like @itsme said, I loathe the LaRocque sig headstock, but otherwise I love that guitar as well (not so much the color, but
the offset markers, like the old-old Ibanez Petrucci sigs had), since I'm still aching for a really good H-S superstrat.What's keeping me from getting the LTD Horizon Custom '87 myself, is the fact that I already got an ESP Horizon NTII.
But yeah, if an H-S guitar comes with 24.75" scale and 22 frets (or 24 slanted, with a slanted neck pickup), I'm all game.
For now, I found some cheaper no-name guitar in the perfect color (since one of the real dream guitars is a Hamer Californian Elite in Aztec Gold, but those are insane money these days), that I slapped an ESP decal on for funsies, almost 26" scale (I think someone added the Floyd later, since the routing was done so-so) with 24 frets (the '7667' inlay is on the 22nd fret) and I'm planning to throw in the same neck pickup as the LaRocque (STK-6), and a TB-5 Custom in the bridge.
Having owned a few import Hamer Californians, because the 27 frets (slanted), the neck pickup sits a tad too close to the bridge for my taste, which takes away some of the bigger round, bell-like overtones that a well-positioned neck pickup usually has.
EDIT:
Note that the white MV-1000 you posted also suffers from this re-positioning of the neck pickup! Oh, and while I don't know your taste in neck pickups, I would stay away from the Hot Rails in the neck, if you wanted to play jangly clean parts, although this MV-1000 luckily does have a coil split.
And the SH-14 (or TB-14) is a cool pickup; it's in my ESP.
I experimented a lot with more bassy neck pickups in those Californians, but neither the Dimarzio Air Norton-S or Super Distortion-S gave me the clarity I also wanted, until I tried the Chopper. That one was the best so far.
But as I have a Chopper now in the neck of a Kramer SM-1 (H-S-S), I'm thinking it could use more of the beefy single-coil style, yet noiseless, so that's why I'm considering the Duncan STK-6 Custom Stack Plus for that no-name guitar. Basically it should be a sort of Lynch/DeMartini/LaRocque type of guitar, covering those tones.
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jchrisf
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Yeah, I considered that Horizon and the price what an LTD should be with the sale going on but I really don't want another 25.5 scale and it doesn't have fret markers.. I'd get lost.@jchrisf Have you considered the LTD Horizon Custom '87?
https://www.espguitars.com/products/32061-horizon-custom-87
Roughly the same price and Korean made;
I believe it ticks most of your boxes, except for the mahogany and 22 frets (yet, the AL sig has 24 frets as well). Or did you mean to write 24.75"scale?
Like @itsme said, I loathe the LaRocque sig headstock, but otherwise I love that guitar as well (not so much the color, but
What's keeping me from getting the LTD Horizon Custom '87 myself, is the fact that I already got an ESP Horizon NTII.
But yeah, if an H-S guitar comes with 24.75" scale and 22 frets (or 24 slanted, with a slanted neck pickup), I'm all game.
For now, I found some cheaper no-name guitar in the perfect color (since one of the real dream guitars is a Hamer Californian Elite in Aztec Gold, but those are insane money these days), that I slapped an ESP decal on for funsies, almost 26" scale (I think someone added the Floyd later, since the routing was done so-so) with 24 frets (the '7667' inlay is on the 22nd fret) and I'm planning to throw in the same neck pickup as the LaRocque (STK-6), and a TB-5 Custom in the bridge.
Having owned a few import Hamer Californians, because the 27 frets (slanted), the neck pickup sits a tad too close to the bridge for my taste, which takes away some of the bigger round, bell-like overtones that a well-positioned neck pickup usually has.
EDIT:
Note that the white MV-1000 you posted also suffers from this re-positioning of the neck pickup! Oh, and while I don't know your taste in neck pickups, I would stay away from the Hot Rails in the neck, if you wanted to play jangly clean parts, although this MV-1000 luckily does have a coil split.
And the SH-14 (or TB-14) is a cool pickup; it's in my ESP.
I experimented a lot with more bassy neck pickups in those Californians, but neither the Dimarzio Air Norton-S or Super Distortion-S gave me the clarity I also wanted, until I tried the Chopper. That one was the best so far.
But as I have a Chopper now in the neck of a Kramer SM-1 (H-S-S), I'm thinking it could use more of the beefy single-coil style, yet noiseless, so that's why I'm considering the Duncan STK-6 Custom Stack Plus for that no-name guitar. Basically it should be a sort of Lynch/DeMartini/LaRocque type of guitar, covering those tones.
Those are some nice looking guitars.
I have Hot Rails in my Mirage Deluxe 87' and I like them.. of course, they do coil split thankfully and sound just like a single coil to me.
Jccobb2
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Man for 2k I’d full send into a custom order and ensure it’s exactly what you want. If not you’ll end up ordering it down the road anyway and your 85% compromise guitar will just sit there.
Speeddemon
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Indeed, their split tone is pretty darn good.
I bought my Kramer SM-1 used an it looks like the factory made a mistake; it should've come with a JB + 2 Cool Rails (middle and neck), but instead of the Cool Rails, there were two Hot Rails bridge (!!!) models in the middle and neck positions!
Way too dark and hot for my tastes there, but their split tones were fine.
napalmdeath
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Thanks to the ESP thread going on here I stumbled across a guitar that has nearly every spec on a guitar I've wanted but have never been able to find. It seems a little over priced IMO but there is not another guitar like it that I've found and I've been looking for a while.
My dream specs:
Super Strat
Volume knob out of the way
25.75 scale
Mahogany body
Neck-Through
Floyd Rose
Headstock same color as body
H-S pickup config
Hardshell Case included
I would prefer a different color and 22 frets.
It's really not a lot to ask for IMO but this guitar is the only one I've found. It just seems a little over priced at $1,799 for an LTD. At MF I can get 8% back in MF cash which kind of brings the price down to $1,650. They don't have any discounts right now but I could probably get 10% off if I try hard enough. I would love to see them put these on a clearance sale like they did with a couple other LTD models this month.
Or would having Keisel build me one with these specs be better quality for about the same price?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...80766d514a916e403b&_index=production_products
ESP LTD Andy LaRocque ALR-II
At MF, it depends who you talk to and the day of week. I use the chat online function, and if somebody tells me there's no discounts, I try again later and get a different story/different person. I would just ensure it's factory sealed, which I always ask and have them email me the quote so I can order using PayPal with options of splitting between credit cards, monthly payments, or PayPal credit.
I know Sweetwater was blowing out the Horizons for $899, but I saw you wanted the 24.75 scale. I had the red one, but I didn't like the neck.
jchrisf
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I do the same thing with MF but never thought to ask if it was factory sealed. I'll be sure and do that next time.
What about the neck didn't you like?
napalmdeath
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It was somewhat flat, and narrow. I don't mind flat, (I like Prestige Wizard necks), I just prefer wider at the nut. Honestly it just felt weird.. I guess it depends on your tastes. For $899, I'd try another one, I just wanted white from the get-go, and didn't really want the red.
Uzi Nein Millimetah
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Thanks to the ESP thread going on here I stumbled across a guitar that has nearly every spec on a guitar I've wanted but have never been able to find. It seems a little over priced IMO but there is not another guitar like it that I've found and I've been looking for a while.
My dream specs:
Super Strat
Volume knob out of the way
25.75 scale
Mahogany body
Neck-Through
Floyd Rose
Headstock same color as body
H-S pickup config
Hardshell Case included
I would prefer a different color and 22 frets.
It's really not a lot to ask for IMO but this guitar is the only one I've found. It just seems a little over priced at $1,799 for an LTD. At MF I can get 8% back in MF cash which kind of brings the price down to $1,650. They don't have any discounts right now but I could probably get 10% off if I try hard enough. I would love to see them put these on a clearance sale like they did with a couple other LTD models this month.
Or would having Keisel build me one with these specs be better quality for about the same price?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...80766d514a916e403b&_index=production_products
ESP LTD Andy LaRocque ALR-II
The answer:
YES
Those are amazing. Although not given a series # such as 1000, etc, they are similar to ESP Std in quality, but with SS frets (gamechanger). The necks are perfect, and things happen just a little faster on 24.75" scale.
cobrahead1030
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If you can score a used one for under $1k I’d go for it. I wouldn’t spend that on a new one.
napalmdeath
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Here you go - Use promo code HAGGERTYS10 and get it for $1619 and NO TAX. https://haggertysmusic.com/products...le-with-hardshell-case?variant=51885767852344Thanks to the ESP thread going on here I stumbled across a guitar that has nearly every spec on a guitar I've wanted but have never been able to find. It seems a little over priced IMO but there is not another guitar like it that I've found and I've been looking for a while.
My dream specs:
Super Strat
Volume knob out of the way
25.75 scale
Mahogany body
Neck-Through
Floyd Rose
Headstock same color as body
H-S pickup config
Hardshell Case included
I would prefer a different color and 22 frets.
It's really not a lot to ask for IMO but this guitar is the only one I've found. It just seems a little over priced at $1,799 for an LTD. At MF I can get 8% back in MF cash which kind of brings the price down to $1,650. They don't have any discounts right now but I could probably get 10% off if I try hard enough. I would love to see them put these on a clearance sale like they did with a couple other LTD models this month.
Or would having Keisel build me one with these specs be better quality for about the same price?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...80766d514a916e403b&_index=production_products
ESP LTD Andy LaRocque ALR-II
Uzi Nein Millimetah
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Great deal and site!
Sweetwater will also make a deal on the ARIIs if you ask them.
napalmdeath
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I'd rather buy from Haggerty's. Screw Sweetwater and their 55-point lie, (and no sales tax since they're a brick & mortar mom & pop).
I've gotten so many rotten guitars I know weren't inspected from Sweetwater, I won't buy a pack of strings from them. I had a major blowout with them and told them to lose my number/email.
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Uzi Nein Millimetah
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I had heard of Haggerty's, but haven't bought from them (yet....I think that's gonna chance soon).
I insist on being able to see the actual guitar for sale when we are talking natural finishes, etc, and apparently Haggerty's does that!
Alpha Stryke
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SW wanted 3 yrs of financing same price / same guitar that AMS sold me for less than one.
Dear SW please phuck-off.
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