Friedman and New Cab

[journeyman73]

so, ive recently acquired a couple Friedmans and really digging them.

Through a set of weird circumstance, I have only H-type speakers right now (pre-rola g12H's and Creamback H's)...i really like the H's i do have, btw...

BUT i cant help thinking I'd also like the option of having some sort of M-type speaker that has a little more mids to go with the Friedmans, PT100 and other marshall-type amps.

I'd like to get a 4x12 with either:

- all V30's
- g12m/v30 mix (basically, the Friedman 'stock' cab)
- or something else you all think i should consider?

the most amount of gain i generally go for is 80-90's classic metal (maybe a little grunge. Although this is going to be a 4x12, I also want to be able to use the cab at lower volumes at home.

So, any thought on an all v30 cab vs the g12m/v30 mix - are those v30's (either in their own cab or mixed with the greenbacks) just going to sound like crap at lower volumes?

thanks for any thoughts!

 

[Racerxrated]

What he said. But, make sure you put the Ms on top of the 30s. I also like G12 65s a lot with Marshall style amps. WGS makes a decent version if you don't want to spend on the Heritage series or search for an old cab...ET65.

 

[journeyman73]

thanks guys - one other thing i forgot to ask about it...

in additon to v30's sounding ok at lower home volumes, is there any issue with mixing speakers at lower volumes (ie i know a lot of things can tend to get washed out when increasing volume but just wanted to be sure that mixing would still still sound good if not pumping out a lot of volume).

thanks

 

[journeyman73]

someone also just suggested a scumback m75/h75 mix or even all bm75's...what do you guys think of that vs the g12/v30 for medium to high gain?

i do want to make sure there is good mids and at least some bottom that is pretty tight

 

[Bxlxaxkxe]

I would start by copying the Freidman formula. Adjust from there.

 

[sahlomonic]

someone also just suggested a scumback m75/h75 mix or even all bm75's...what do you guys think of that vs the g12/v30 for medium to high gain?

i do want to make sure there is good mids and at least some bottom that is pretty tight

For a couple years I had the older blue frame 'Scumbag' H75/M75 mix in my Soldano 4x12. Sounded really good, but just didn't have the punch I was looking for. Played it back and forth against a Bogner Uberkab and the Uber blew it away in terms of punch factor and filling the room. Wish I would have kept a pair and used V30s with either the H75 or M75 speakers to be honest.

 

[journeyman73]

someone also just suggested a scumback m75/h75 mix or even all bm75's...what do you guys think of that vs the g12/v30 for medium to high gain?

i do want to make sure there is good mids and at least some bottom that is pretty tight

For a couple years I had the older blue frame 'Scumbag' H75/M75 mix in my Soldano 4x12. Sounded really good, but just didn't have the punch I was looking for. Played it back and forth against a Bogner Uberkab and the Uber blew it away in terms of punch factor and filling the room. Wish I would have kept a pair and used V30s with either the H75 or M75 speakers to be honest.

hmmm, the m75/v30 mix might be nice on paper....