Friedman Jose clips -NAD!

[angelspade]

The presence knob is a HUGE part of the high gain Marshall sound. The higher it is, the more aggressive it sounds. Tame on the treble knob as necessary.

Agree...I have found this to be tru on my JVM for high gain rhythm sounds as well. Push presence and dial back treble to taste...Keeps all the attack and aggression optimized.

 

[BABMusic]

Did you ever tube swap your JEL? I have a JEL-50. Yes it has a HUGE flubby bottom end. I emailed Dave about it. I almost returned it after not getting much resolution from him. There was a JJ in V1, V2 and V3 had B.A.D. labeled I believe to be Chinese preamp tubes. THEY ALL SUCK! especially the JJ -loose booming low end. After trying various 12ax7s (square getter Chinese, Tung-sol, EH, other JJs, the winner was all 3 Mullard Reissue CV4004s. I have the bass on 4-5 now, tight, thick with harmonics on the high strings. Before was boomy, loose, and piercing thin highs as I tried compensating the low end issue with more presence and treble.

Your Jose sounds great! Chewy, and harmonics galore. I wasn't jabbing you with the Poison comment.

Hmm, now I'm also very curious about these CV4004 Mullard tubes. I've never tried them and would be interested if they are an improvement from the JJ, EH and TS tubes I currently own.

 

[zewango]

Sounds the best of all the clips you've put up.
I got the email but hit delete fast to erase the temptation.

 

[cragginshred]

This amp sounds great...Again, not a "metal" amp, but a great sounding rock amp with a lot of texture and character.

If this tone was heard in the 80's it would certainly be 'metal' what is current metal tone I want nothing to do with

 

[cragginshred]

That is an interesting comment. I just moved this summer and maybe it's because I'm now playing in a basement with carpet and concrete walls, but I will often have my presence at 8 and my treble at 7.5 on my BE50. I didn't do this prior to moving where we had wood flooring, so maybe that has something to do with it. This is the context of using a Pegasus humbucker, which is tight, yet a little dark in the high end. For a Strat with single coils, I will lower the presence a bit though, to maybe 6 or 7. I even have the bias set at 38 for extra juiciness. In contrast to the old DSL100 I used to own, I would rarely turn the presence up past 5 on that amp.

I would love to hear the Jose and how it responds with the two presence types (I can tell vintage would probably be my thing). People say it has less gain than the BE, but sounds to me like it has plenty of gain in all the videos.

Yes plenty of gain especially when you hit the front end with a boost. I will never dime the gain knob. To my ears between a little over noon and 3/4 mark the gain is perfect for classic metal -VH, Ratt ect.
My studio has too much foam and wall treatment. When I take the rig anywhere I'm always confused at first, then I tweak it a bit and wala

 

[cragginshred]

I hear C.C. DeVille in your clips.

The band that single handedly killed the 80's Lol! I say that in jest, but seriously why do people refer to poison 99.9999999% of the time when the topic of the 80's comes up??
The 80's began in 1978 with VH I's release!

 

[cragginshred]

I'll have to research the amp more. The only things I'm interested in right now is The Jose, JEL 50 or SLO.

BTW, how are you recording?

Same way I always do, point my iphone toward the cab and try to come up with an interesting riff. No DAW or IR's which all other use = NOT what it will sound like in your room

As for the Slo interest, I'm keeping my slo 30, but it is a different tone for sure. Very savage with a little more gain and as a result a little less note clarity.
Depends on the tone you want. 99.999% Marshall get the Jose. More modded savagery get the Slo

 

[cragginshred]

Sounds the best of all the clips you've put up.
I got the email but hit delete fast to erase the temptation.

Thanks! It is an amp that is impossible to capture the exact mojo it offers without standing in front of it.
This is actually what I had hoped would be the case as exactly none of the clips on YT including my own are mind blowing.

I will add there is a second when you plug in where it's 'the tone in your head' that it is too perfect!

 

[cragginshred]

+1 the Jose doesn't suffer from treble fatigue. I have a B.A.D. SLO 100, which I love. They're 2 completely different amps.

The SLO has its own sound, gobs of gain and that authoritative midrange push. The Jose is more articulate and at its heart is a Marshall.

I found myself having to hit the front end of my Jose with a SD-1 to tighten up the bottom-end due to how I set the gain and low-end.

Dave did a killer job with the control layout and simplicity of it. Just remember the Jose isn't a modern gain monster. It's a hardrock amp.

Nailed it!!

 

[cragginshred]

Did you ever tube swap your JEL? I have a JEL-50. Yes it has a HUGE flubby bottom end. I emailed Dave about it. I almost returned it after not getting much resolution from him. There was a JJ in V1, V2 and V3 had B.A.D. labeled I believe to be Chinese preamp tubes. THEY ALL SUCK! especially the JJ -loose booming low end. After trying various 12ax7s (square getter Chinese, Tung-sol, EH, other JJs, the winner was all 3 Mullard Reissue CV4004s. I have the bass on 4-5 now, tight, thick with harmonics on the high strings. Before was boomy, loose, and piercing thin highs as I tried compensating the low end issue with more presence and treble.

Your Jose sounds great! Chewy, and harmonics galore. I wasn't jabbing you with the Poison comment.

Man you are 100% spot on with the jEL loose flubby lows. Dave does not get that at all. It is suppossed to be the JCM 800 modded tone and it's so far away
I took my BE dlx to him last year and he is clueless that most do not want the polished compressed tones and always boasts about the low end response.
My solution to that was put an SD-1 in front for solos.

The only other box that worked was the Tumnus, but then it became a bit much. I can spend all the dough and am too cheap to roll tubes. But that's great info!

 

[cragginshred]

Ummm….what in the world are you talking about? Sorry but Wizards reign supreme in the clarity dept. not close. I’m not trying to be a turd I’m just blown away by that comment!

Not to my ears. Not only do they have too much gain (solo heaven on ch 2) They have a wash of gain which will never translate to note clarity. Ch 1 was next to impossible to dial in for me

Killer amp tho! Brutal punch and very high quality tone

 

[geetarmikey]

Sounded awesome, love that chewy Marshall tone!