Fryette Power Station, they did it.

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A few years ago i was experimenting with my Marshall SE100 trying to get rid of the compression of the system.
I had the idea to plug it into a little blackheart that was modded to work as power amplifier with my Axe-Fx Ultra.
And baammm it worked.
It seems that the amp stage removes the compression introduced by the attenuation and keep the frequency shape of tubes.

Today Fryette has built a box which does the same thing, attenuate to 30db and amplify again with TUBES!
All i can do is to recommend people to give a look at this attenuator.
This is the shit. :lol: :LOL:
I'm sure it will catch the market and become a standard for attenuators in the futur.
Of course the result is subject to the quality of the implementation.

 
Damnit, I just boght a Rockcrusher :D
This thing is very interesting! And also much more versatile.
I could've run this with my AMT SS-30 as a practice rig at home :/
 
bmi":33lgewb4 said:
A few years ago i was experimenting with my Marshall SE100 trying to get rid of the compression of the system.
I had the idea to plug it into a little blackheart that was modded to work as power amplifier with my Axe-Fx Ultra.
And baammm it worked.
It seems that the amp stage removes the compression introduced by the attenuation and keep the frequency shape of tubes.

Today Fryette has built a box which does the same thing, attenuate to 30db and amplify again with TUBES!
All i can do is to recommend people to give a look at this attenuator.
This is the shit. :lol: :LOL:
I'm sure it will catch the market and become a standard for attenuators in the futur.
Of course the result is subject to the quality of the implementation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAGXRDfCF30
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It's referred to as re-amplification. A concept invented by Edward Van Halen, and patented by Guy Hedrick.

If you did anything, you re-eq'd (and re-amped) the signal. Re-amplifying a signal, whether it's through a tube amp or solid-state, increases compression. Anything you put between your guitar pickups and the final output signal is going to increase compression, not lessen it. The guy in video says that he doesn't hear any difference in the tone... I do.

I use re-amping often, but if I had to choose, I prefer zero attenuation with no re-amp. If you want great gain tones at lower volume levels, get a GDS 18 watt amplifier. There are others, of-course, but the GDS is one of the best sounding. If you're recording via a DAW, mic the 18 watt amp with a Shure 57 or other mic.
 
TrueTone500":2x0x4fhm said:
bmi":2x0x4fhm said:
A few years ago i was experimenting with my Marshall SE100 trying to get rid of the compression of the system.
I had the idea to plug it into a little blackheart that was modded to work as power amplifier with my Axe-Fx Ultra.
And baammm it worked.
It seems that the amp stage removes the compression introduced by the attenuation and keep the frequency shape of tubes.

Today Fryette has built a box which does the same thing, attenuate to 30db and amplify again with TUBES!
All i can do is to recommend people to give a look at this attenuator.
This is the shit. :lol: :LOL:
I'm sure it will catch the market and become a standard for attenuators in the futur.
Of course the result is subject to the quality of the implementation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAGXRDfCF30
Click to expand...
It's referred to as re-amplification. A concept invented by Edward Van Halen, and patented by Guy Hedrick.

If you did anything, you re-eq'd (and re-amped) the signal. Re-amplifying a signal, whether it's through a tube amp or solid-state, increases compression. Anything you put between your guitar pickups and the final output signal is going to increase compression, not lessen it. The guy in video says that he doesn't hear any difference in the tone... I do.

I use re-amping often, but if I had to choose, I prefer zero attenuation with no re-amp. If you want great gain tones at lower volume levels, get a GDS 18 watt amplifier. There are others, of-course, but the GDS is one of the best sounding. If you're recording via a DAW, mic the 18 watt amp with a Shure 57 or other mic.
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seriously i didnt hear any compression or changes which the demo that joe gamble did.... will be a cool thing to get :) marketing strategy it was stacked on deliverance and being stackes on top is a GPDI !! lol
 
TrueTone500":2cs08q0w said:
Kelly":2cs08q0w said:
Evh did not invent reamping.
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Who was doing it before Ed?
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It's been noted that Phil Spector, re-mixing the original Beatles’ Let It Be master tapes in 1970, may have re-recorded dry electric guitar program through a guitar amplifier.

j/s
 
Eddie Kramer has also talked about reamping during the sixties.
 
So you can attenuate down, and amplify a low powered amp! Wow! This thing can do a lot.
 
Oblivion DC":2uzqopes said:
TrueTone500":2uzqopes said:
Kelly":2uzqopes said:
Evh did not invent reamping.
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Who was doing it before Ed?
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It's been noted that Phil Spector, re-mixing the original Beatles’ Let It Be master tapes in 1970, may have re-recorded dry electric guitar program through a guitar amplifier.

j/s
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I was referring to attenuating the guitar signal from the source amplifier, and then sending it through a secondary amplifier. Phil Spector would have been re-amplifying a pre-recorded track, though I don't know why he would do this? Adding fuzz and/or effects to the track, maybe? Ed could have picked the idea up from PS, who knows?
 
Load/ ramp a guitar rig was first done by my friend Ed Degenaro. Many people were doing this not long after him..... including EVH.
 
It's referred to as re-amplification. A concept invented by Edward Van Halen, and patented by Guy Hedrick.
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You can't patent this kind of thing in France. I know that it's different in US but i doubt that even if you get a paper it protects you from something or you could patent walking on the moon or giving food to your cat.
 
Kind of like slaving an amp. I slaved my SLO for years. Got tired of hauling it all around. If this sounds anything close to that it is very cool. :)
 
If you did anything, you re-eq'd (and re-amped) the signal. Re-amplifying a signal, whether it's through a tube amp or solid-state, increases compression. Anything you put between your guitar pickups and the final output signal is going to increase compression, not lessen it. The guy in video says that he doesn't hear any difference in the tone... I do.
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Do we talk about dynamic compression or bandwith compression or something else which changes the signal? I don't know but i know for sure this reamplification with tube helps to restore the original signal and that's the way to go for attenuation.

Now you can ask yourself if amplifying a pod gives the same result with a solid state or tube power amp.

If i was into the business i would have done it three years ago and people would give me kudos. Fryette did it first so kudos to him.
We will see other attenuators working with the same system because it is simple to do perhaps even diy kits for people with 1/4w stage for home play.

It will be good for music, for amp builders and for people in general.(who listen or play)
 
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