FX loop - Tube or No tube THAT is the question..

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So i have narrowed it down to two loops for my 800 Clone 2204 PTP.

The Larry Loop with a tube for the buffer...
or a solid state loop with no tube for the buffer (apprently in new marshalls)
:confused:

I dont even know what a buffer is/does :rock:

Both have knobs for effects mix.

So obvisouly one will be easier to install than the other, i wont be doing this a tech will be.

So anyone care to comment on either loops? both are Parralell

Loop will be used for a delay

Your Pal
Halford
 
since its parallel, I would mind either one.. Serial loops I tend to prefer tube.
 
thanks for the reply :thumbsup:

Why do you tend to perfer a tube in a Serial Loop?

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Hacksaw":26a1gbda said:
since its parallel, I would mind either one..
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Im not sure what you mean sorry :confused: you mean.. you dont care to have a tube or not for Parrell? if so whay?

Cheers
Halford
 
there are two kinds of loops.. series and parallel, parallel runs in parallel with your amps dry signal (generally you can send a variable amount of signal through the loop with the mix knob). Series, the dry signal 100% sent through the loop and then to the poweramp.

I prefer series.
 
It really depends on the design of the loop. Many people believe that ss loops are inferior, but I've read on more than one occasion from some cats in the know that it all hinges on the design and that a ss loop can be just as good. So I think it might depend more on who you get to the mod.
 
halford":2vx4r32e said:
thanks for the reply :thumbsup:

Why do you tend to perfer a tube in a Serial Loop?

Also
Hacksaw":2vx4r32e said:
since its parallel, I would mind either one..
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Im not sure what you mean sorry :confused: you mean.. you dont care to have a tube or not for Parrell? if so whay?

Cheers
Halford
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HI,

I prefer a serial loop with a tube as I can use it as a light gain stage with smooth results. Like someone mentioned it is about implementation.. but the tube just adds a little more warmth if I am running this stage hot. Even though all my rack gear is solid state and A/D D/A converters. I have pushed the output of a effects device a little to get a little more drive and push. I cant really do that with solid state loops. IMO..

In a parallel, Correct.. I dont mind either type. The loop isnt as prevelant in the overall scheme.. its a mix of the loop signal and the original. so solid state works great.. I "wouldn't" mind tube or solid state.. is what I ment.. in this design.

I have amps with Solid state and a serial type of loop and they work fine as well. When a amp is being biult for me I ask if I can get a tube driven loop.. if not solid state is fine.. as long as I have a loop! :D
 
trey85stang":2dq0fruz said:
there are two kinds of loops.. series and parallel, parallel runs in parallel with your amps dry signal (generally you can send a variable amount of signal through the loop with the mix knob). Series, the dry signal 100% sent through the loop and then to the poweramp.

I prefer series.
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Hi, thanks for your response, i understand how the Loops work was just enquiry about the effect of a Tube in each of them

Hacksaw":2dq0fruz said:
HI,

I prefer a serial loop with a tube as I can use it as a light gain stage with smooth results. Like someone mentioned it is about implementation.. but the tube just adds a little more warmth if I am running this stage hot. Even though all my rack gear is solid state and A/D D/A converters. I have pushed the output of a effects device a little to get a little more drive and push. I cant really do that with solid state loops. IMO..

In a parallel, Correct.. I dont mind either type. The loop isnt as prevelant in the overall scheme.. its a mix of the loop signal and the original. so solid state works great.. I "wouldn't" mind tube or solid state.. is what I ment.. in this design.

I have amps with Solid state and a serial type of loop and they work fine as well. When a amp is being biult for me I ask if I can get a tube driven loop.. if not solid state is fine.. as long as I have a loop! :D
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Hey Hacksaw thanks for that very helpful.

I guess your right. Will proberly go for ther Solid State one. Its a loop that Nik from Ceratone uses. Only thing its for is a delay and maybe a eq. I think as long as i have a loop at the end of the day its finer :thumbsup:
 
FortinAmps":7262bfn3 said:
halford":7262bfn3 said:
Hi

So i have narrowed it down to two loops for my 800 Clone 2204 PTP.

The Larry Loop with a tube for the buffer...
or a solid state loop with no tube for the buffer (apprently in new marshalls)
:confused:

I dont even know what a buffer is/does :rock:

Both have knobs for effects mix.

So obvisouly one will be easier to install than the other, i wont be doing this a tech will be.

So anyone care to comment on either loops? both are Parralell

Loop will be used for a delay

Your Pal
Halford
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I would go with Larry's tube fx loop. It is a properly designed loop. You can use stomp boxes and rack effects in it. With a few little changes you can easily make it series or parallel via a mini switch. I believe all that stuff is discussed in that monster sticky thread over at Metro forum. I'm sure if you PMed Larry and asked him for the changes, he would tell you what needs to be added to make it series/parallel.

Cheers,
Mike
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Hey man

Thanks for that. Oh no now one more vote fopr Larrys Loop

Gotta make a decision soon.

If i do get it i will only want a Parralel loop, no need for both.

Only thing riding on this also is if my tech can do it (im sure its not that hard)

Whats the link to the monster post on Metro?

Not sure what category its under :confused:

Cheers.
 
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