G string choking

[MisterBulbous]

As a relatively new owner of a Suhr S4, I've been unhappy with fret buzz. Suhr sets their guitars up with minimal action and only about 0.005" of neck relief. Couple that with the maple neck and it can be annoying. I received my guitar last August, returned it to Indoor Storm and they "set it up again", but it was still buzzing. After that, I had a problem with the high e popping out of the nut slot if I did a whole step bend down by the lower frets. Since that I've returned it to Suhr and the replaced the nut, but I still have a few issues with fret buzz, mostly the low E and the G string. I've noticed that the action is still lower than my Jackson, so I'm gonna raise it a little and see what happens.

 

[Beret]

They said that the neck developed a "flip" at the end. They re-pleked it and all is well.

~B

Can you post back up? It's the damndest thing My Modern does it only on the G note at the 12th fret on the G string. What's so crazy about it is when I put my ear up to the body of the guitar the note rings out fine. Through my amps it chokes out fast. No sustain. Through my strobe tuner it dies out quick also. I checked the pickups and it's not them. I must know. I'm a little bit of an obsessive compulsive so this kind of shit causes me to freak out

 

[glip22]

They said that the neck developed a "flip" at the end. They re-pleked it and all is well.

~B

Can you post back up? It's the damndest thing My Modern does it only on the G note at the 12th fret on the G string. What's so crazy about it is when I put my ear up to the body of the guitar the note rings out fine. Through my amps it chokes out fast. No sustain. Through my strobe tuner it dies out quick also. I checked the pickups and it's not them. I must know. I'm a little bit of an obsessive compulsive so this kind of shit causes me to freak out

Cool. What is a "flip"? Was this at the last fret near the neck pickup?

 

[Beret]

I honestly have no idea. I haven't got it back yet (they're doing something else with it ATM).

~B

 

[glpg80]

Been a while since I've choked on a g string, man I miss high school

 

[Drkorey]

marked for later search

 

[glip22]

I honestly have no idea. I haven't got it back yet (they're doing something else with it ATM).

~B

I wonder what caused it if it's not a dead spot in the neck. I looked at my frets and when I fret the "G" at the 12th, the string clears the following 13-24 frets. Mine doesn't sustain too long either on this note only.

 

[K_Line]

Sounds like a fret hump. Plek or no plek frets come unseated from time to time. Check out the string as well, sometimes it gets bumped and bent.

 

[Beret]

Yeah, I'll know more when I get it back and compare it to what it was originally.

~B

I honestly have no idea. I haven't got it back yet (they're doing something else with it ATM).

~B

I wonder what caused it if it's not a dead spot in the neck. I looked at my frets and when I fret the "G" at the 12th, the string clears the following 13-24 frets. Mine doesn't sustain too long either on this note only.

 

[Pickup]

The action can be to low and cause the dead spot. The dead spot can be found on alot of guitars. You would not notice it playing LOUD.

 

[Beret]

Nope, that wasn't it. Raising the action did nothing to impact the problem.

~B

The action can be to low and cause the dead spot. The dead spot can be found on alot of guitars. You would not notice it playing LOUD.

 

[jlbaxe]

Been a while since I've choked on a g string, man I miss high school

Thats what I thought when I saw the title. Me too

 

[Suhr]

Lets not get confused here

A) All guitars have dead spots or you could say some notes are more alive than others.
The most common place is the G string (has the least energy to sustain) and between the 10th and 14th frets.
My Gibsons all do it and I can find notes that don't ring out on any instrument I play unless they are all equally dead.
PRS have it so do Acoustics and especially basses. PRS even sells a kit (different gear buttons and saddles to try and move it)
Seems like the longer scale lengths are worse than the shorter ones since they have more bass response and sustain in the first place so any lack of becomes more noticeable.
It is one of the oldest complaints in the world next to stratitus and fret buzz.
Usually a little finger vibrato cures it all.
Anything you can do to shift the resonance of the instrument can move it, like tightening the rod a little or loosening. Changing mass like saddles or tuning gears.
Making sure nothing is vibrating in the guitar like a pickup or loose screws. Try and loosen the neck bolts so the neck has slid all the way forward and then re tighten.
Trying to get rid of a dead spot is really not easy and usually we can only hope to move them out of your way.
The issue here.... wood, organic materials are unpredictable.

B) Not to be confused with a flip or a raised tongue where the wood has raised up creating a flip. This would responsible for abnormal buzz when the neck seems straight and can be easily fixed with a plek. It doesn't take much when you have low action to throw things out of whack and we can take care of that quickly.

c) Fret buzz is a relationship of all things that drive the string to vibrate. If you have a good setup you can look for issues like....
Is the nut low enough since if it is higher than needed you have a tendency to lower the bridge making buzz worse.
Pickups too high, especially the neck and middle pickups on the bass side.
Heavy touch or not being used to a longer scale length 25.5" (always more string rattle) as opposed to PRS or Gibson scale lengths
Single coil pickups pull on the strings much more than humbuckers causing excessive buzz especially when too high.
So guitars just like to rattle more than others. Many times it comes from the saddles or bridge. People who like low action and play hard, these dont mix.

Anyway.... please use email for support !

 

[thiswaythatway]

Lets not get confused here

A) All guitars have dead spots or you could say some notes are more alive than others.
The most common place is the G string (has the least energy to sustain) and between the 10th and 14th frets.
My Gibsons all do it and I can find notes that don't ring out on any instrument I play unless they are all equally dead.
PRS have it so do Acoustics and especially basses. PRS even sells a kit (different gear buttons and saddles to try and move it)
Seems like the longer scale lengths are worse than the shorter ones since they have more bass response and sustain in the first place so any lack of becomes more noticeable.
It is one of the oldest complaints in the world next to stratitus and fret buzz.
Usually a little finger vibrato cures it all.
Anything you can do to shift the resonance of the instrument can move it, like tightening the rod a little or loosening. Changing mass like saddles or tuning gears.
Making sure nothing is vibrating in the guitar like a pickup or loose screws. Try and loosen the neck bolts so the neck has slid all the way forward and then re tighten.
Trying to get rid of a dead spot is really not easy and usually we can only hope to move them out of your way.
The issue here.... wood, organic materials are unpredictable.

B) Not to be confused with a flip or a raised tongue where the wood has raised up creating a flip. This would responsible for abnormal buzz when the neck seems straight and can be easily fixed with a plek. It doesn't take much when you have low action to throw things out of whack and we can take care of that quickly.

c) Fret buzz is a relationship of all things that drive the string to vibrate. If you have a good setup you can look for issues like....
Is the nut low enough since if it is higher than needed you have a tendency to lower the bridge making buzz worse.
Pickups too high, especially the neck and middle pickups on the bass side.
Heavy touch or not being used to a longer scale length 25.5" (always more string rattle) as opposed to PRS or Gibson scale lengths
Single coil pickups pull on the strings much more than humbuckers causing excessive buzz especially when too high.
So guitars just like to rattle more than others. Many times it comes from the saddles or bridge. People who like low action and play hard, these dont mix.

Anyway.... please use email for support !

Great info here, Thanks.


I was thinking from the start that he had a high fret or the neck had a hump in it. Sometimes when i have my guitar around someone else who had a good eye or a good knack for setting up guitars I throw my guitar at them and ask them to sight my neck down.........HARRY!

And you nailed it when you said woods are unpredictable.