Gibson Les Paul Wiring schemes

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I know there is a vintage and modern wiring scheme for a Les Paul. I was messing around with my '73 LP custom last night and noticed that the bridge volume kind of acts as a master volume. If I am on the neck pickup and turn down the neck volume it doesn't kill the volume, then I turned down the bridge volume and it still didn't kill the sound completely. On the bridge pickup, the bridge volume did turn off the volume completely. Is this behavior normal for a vintage LP wiring?

I checked with my '04 standard and it functions as you would expect with the neck control just the neck and bridge controlling the bridge volume. I have heard the vintage wiring is interactive, so maybe mine is wired correctly.

Which wiring scheme to you guys prefer, vintage or modern?
 
blackba":15mx6579 said:
I know there is a vintage and modern wiring scheme for a Les Paul. I was messing around with my '73 LP custom last night and noticed that the bridge volume kind of acts as a master volume. If I am on the neck pickup and turn down the neck volume it doesn't kill the volume, then I turned down the bridge volume and it still didn't kill the sound completely. On the bridge pickup, the bridge volume did turn off the volume completely. Is this behavior normal for a vintage LP wiring?

I checked with my '04 standard and it functions as you would expect with the neck control just the neck and bridge controlling the bridge volume. I have heard the vintage wiring is interactive, so maybe mine is wired correctly.

Which wiring scheme to you guys prefer, vintage or modern?

I'm not famillier with the differences, but the problem you're describing I've seen happen. :)
 
blackba":3r92pofs said:
Which wiring scheme to you guys prefer, vintage or modern?

Usually vintage, sometimes modern. Vintage is a bit more airy and brighter. But depends on the guitar. It is SO easy to swap around the two though.

The problem you describe I never had, but I would suggest to rewire it all, maybe replace pots while you're at it. Unless you wanna keep it vintage/collectors original something.
 
hunter":26k1a2ve said:
blackba":26k1a2ve said:
Which wiring scheme to you guys prefer, vintage or modern?

Usually vintage, sometimes modern. Vintage is a bit more airy and brighter. But depends on the guitar. It is SO easy to swap around the two though.

The problem you describe I never had, but I would suggest to rewire it all, maybe replace pots while you're at it. Unless you wanna keep it vintage/collectors original something.

Already replaced the pots actually, changed them to all 500k. Stock either the volume or tone were 300k, can't remember I have it written down. The tone pots are now 500k push pulls so I can split the pickups if I want.

I will take the cover off tonight and take a post a picture of the control cavity.
 
I've had this happen to a buddy of mine's guitar that I rewired for him. Look at the neck volume pot and make sure that the ground lug is thoroughly grounded and that there are no pools of solder anywhere on the lugs.
 
JakeAC5253":1kdfmavr said:
I've had this happen to a buddy of mine's guitar that I rewired for him. Look at the neck volume pot and make sure that the ground lug is thoroughly grounded and that there are no pools of solder anywhere on the lugs.

That was it, I had forgotten to solder the terminal that you bend back and solder to the volume pot. It looked like it was soldered, but wasn't at all. Its been like this for years. I should have checked when the luthier that did the refret said he thought there was an issue with the electronics.

The guitar sounds awesome now. It was super dark and mean sounding before, it now has all that warm buttery Les Paul Sound. My '73 LP custom was my most expensive guitar and is finally sounding like it. Had this guitar played like and sounded like this a few years ago, I probably would still have my '94 LP studio and not have my '04 Standard LE.

Mine is wired like the first picture in this link.

http://www.dominocs.com/AshBassGuitar/W ... ibson.html

As always, thanks for the help guys. :rock:
 
Thanks for putting that diagram website up :thumbsup: . Ther's alot of good info on that site :yes:
 
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