Gibson Pricing?

[Mesa\Kramer]

High priced?

Gibson produces and sells the "Lowest" priced USA made guitars out there.

Fender's USA line starts higher than these.

So the real questions back at ya is:

"If Gibson can produce a USA set neck carved top guitar for under $700, why can't Fender do the same or better with a simple bolt on neck design?"


$499

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les- ... tads-plaid^32411555561-sku^H93794.002@ADL4gc-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^18055315361



$599
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... ric-guitar



$699

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... ric-guitar

 

[lespaul6]

Here is at least one u.s. company thats making the traditional shape the same, if not better, and cheaper...

www.corsaguitars.com

 

[rlord1974]

Here is at least one u.s. company thats making the traditional shape the same, if not better, and cheaper...

http://www.corsaguitars.com

Never heard of them. Neither will have 99.9% of the potential buyers, if I was to tire of it and decide I wanted to sell.

There's something to be said for brand recognition. Gibson has it.

 

[lespaul6]

Understood... the point was the manufacture and quality and the relative costs involved- not whether or not you could resell it- separate points.

 

[TrueTone500]

I recently got a 2013 Gibson R8 Lemon Burst. For the way this thing plays, feels and sounds it's worth every penny. Absolutely amazing guitar in every aspect.

Got a great deal from Eddies guitars. Cheaper than a big portion of used R8's out there. Definitely cheaper than most Custom Shop models from other guitar manufacturers.

 

[se7en]

Love that lemonburst/flame...what a beaut!

 

[TrueTone500]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

 

[steve_k]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

Brazilian?

 

[jlb32]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

From what I've read the R9 serial numbers with Brazilian in 2003 were 001-674. That one is 1184.

 

[glip22]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

From what I've read the R9 serial numbers with Brazilian in 2003 were 001-674. That one is 1184.

If that is not Brazillian its a really nice piece of Madagascar. You really only see the black striping in these.

 

[jlb32]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

From what I've read the R9 serial numbers with Brazilian in 2003 were 001-674. That one is 1184.

If that is not Brazillian its a really nice piece of Madagascar. You really only see the black striping in these.

It does look nice. I personally don't find it that uncommon though. Even the Indian rosewood has the black striping.

Some just show up more than others depending on the angle and darkness or lightness of the overall fretboard wood.

This is a 2012 Les Paul Standard

 

[bigdaddyd]

I paid $540.00 (w/o case) for my '78 Gibson Les Paul Custom in 1978. Today a new Gibson LPC will cost you $3999.00 USD. That's nearly an 800% increase in price! Cumulative inflation rate from 1978 to 2013 indicates that the price of a new Gibson LPC should be $1934.69 USD.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... ric-guitar

Not too far off considering, that not everything is as perfect as you may think and that companies are entitled to make a profit. I am neither for or against their pricing, since I buy used, but I see nothing wrong with the price here. If the name was Tom Anderson or Suhr, I don't think this thread would exist for a $2399 guitar, with the same or less features. Debate the quality all you want, I don't give a shit. I have 4 Gibsons now and have begun selling off most of what I have to get more. They have been the most consistent, in tone, feel and playability of anything I have ever owned in 20+ years, and I have owned pretty much everything.

BTW, I would never pay $3999 for a LPC especially when I can get used and vintage ones for that or less. I don't even know why you would go look for one and have this discussion if it bothers you that much. There are awesome Gibsons all over they place. They do what they do because THEY CAN.

To the OP....comparing a guitar like this to an American Fender strat is BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. There is nothing in a Fender American Strat...and I love Fenders. Fenders were designed to be straight up production, utilitarian guitars for the everyman, and they wound up being super successful. Unless you are talking vintage, build your own, or buy an import and upgrade the shit out of it and save the $$$$$

 

[jsp]

Find me another company producing their guitars in the U.S., with the same attention to detail (e.g., binding, maple top, glued in neck, etc.) that is selling their product for significantly less than Gibson. Then we'll have an apples to apples comparison.

Carvin?

 

[TrueTone500]

I paid $540.00 (w/o case) for my '78 Gibson Les Paul Custom in 1978. Today a new Gibson LPC will cost you $3999.00 USD. That's nearly an 800% increase in price! Cumulative inflation rate from 1978 to 2013 indicates that the price of a new Gibson LPC should be $1934.69 USD.

Fenders were designed to be straight up production, utilitarian guitars for the everyman...

And Gibson's were designed for who?

 

[TrueTone500]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

According to this post (if correct), it is a Brazilian.

 

[jlb32]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

According to this post (if correct), it is a Brazilian.

That post doesn't seem to address the 1959 reissue numbers. Those are the numbers for 2003 1957 reissues.
This seems to be the most popular list for 2003 1959 reissues from what I've seen. The one on Ebay is 93(1184). Seems only 001-674 had Brazilian.

2003: 1959 Reissue, ranging from 93001-93674
-93001-93006 are prototypes
-93008 has 2002 specs
-3 are korina Flying Vs

 

[TrueTone500]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

According to this post (if correct), it is a Brazilian.

That post doesn't seem to address the 1959 reissue numbers. Those are the numbers for 2003 1957 reissues.
This seems to be the most popular list for 2003 1959 reissues from what I've seen. The one on Ebay is 93(1184). Seems only 001-674 had Brazilian.

2003: 1959 Reissue, ranging from 93001-93674
-93001-93006 are prototypes
-93008 has 2002 specs
-3 are korina Flying Vs

Understood.

Did Gibson make any R0 LP's with Brazilian rosewood? Does Brazilian rosewood sound better than non-Brazilian rosewood? I've owned only one guitar that had a Brazi fretboard (Hamer), but was never able to compare it to its non-Brazi counter-part.

 

[rlord1974]

One piece of Brazilian rosewood fingerboard wood will sound different than another piece of Brazilian rosewood fingerboard wood. As such, to compare Brazilian rosewood to any other type of rosewood, in terms of tonality, is a futile exercise.

It's all HYPE.

 

[jlb32]

2003 Gibson Les Paul R9 w/Brazilian fretboard on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... NA:US:3160

There was a run of 2003 R9's that had Brazilian rosewood fretboards. Don't think that is one of them.

According to this post (if correct), it is a Brazilian.

That post doesn't seem to address the 1959 reissue numbers. Those are the numbers for 2003 1957 reissues.
This seems to be the most popular list for 2003 1959 reissues from what I've seen. The one on Ebay is 93(1184). Seems only 001-674 had Brazilian.

2003: 1959 Reissue, ranging from 93001-93674
-93001-93006 are prototypes
-93008 has 2002 specs
-3 are korina Flying Vs

Understood.

Did Gibson make any R0 LP's with Brazilian rosewood? Does Brazilian rosewood sound better than non-Brazilian rosewood? I've owned only one guitar that had a Brazi fretboard (Hamer), but was never able to compare it to its non-Brazi counter-part.

Yeah, they did a run of R0's in 2003 also with Brazilian rosewood.

To me Brazilian rosewood is all hype due to rarity. IMO the Madagascar they used after Brazilian and the Indian Rosewood they currently use now is just as good or better. A lot of people would disagree but that's my opinion from my experience with it.

Here's the list of 2003 R0's with Brazilian.


1960 Reissue, ranging from 03001-03163
-03001-03010 are prototypes (except for 03007 (not a proto) and 03002 (2002 specs)), and 2 of these are LP Specials
-it appears that 03007 DOES have BR
-within this range, 21 are LP Specials
-48 are non-Historic GC ’60 LPs, none of which have BR

 

[TrueTone500]

I just picked up this 2005 R0 (G0) from a girl in SC... I can't wait to get this in my hands!

Is this called a Lemonburst?