good preamp recommedation?

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Anyone have any thoughts on a Engl E570 Special Edition Preamp vs Bogner Fish? I have a Torpedo Live I'd like to try a good preamp with. Fishs are hard to find and are usually about $800/900 or so more than the Engl in the used market.

Not into death metal, saturated plexi sounds are my main tone (although a occasional Mega/Metallica jam is always fun).
Other recommendations welcome....
 
I've owned the E570 and prefer the simpler E530, which I still own. If you're not into death and more into plexi sounds, the E570 is the opposite of what you want. I've read threads that the Fish is good, but not worth the price when compared to Bogner heads.
The Marshall JMP-1 is a nice cheap alternative; the Rocktron Piranha is even better, but hard to find. If you go Mesa, you're better off with the Quad preamp or Studio preamp rather than the Triaxis IMO. There's a Fish for sale on here for 1900$ I think, that would be my personal choice if money was no issue.
 
Agree on the ENGL E570, it's main vibe is not the saturated plexi sounds, although it is very versatile. ENGL's have their own voice, and it's not Marshall-y. Also concur with the Pirhana recommendation, I always liked it better than the JMP-1. Never had a FIsh, but I'd assume it's got the Ecstasy thing going for it somewhere in there, which seems closer to what you want. However, if you're looking for Marshall, the JMP-1 can very closely hit all those tones. Some folks swear by them, others complain about it's solid state sound. Gots to try them, lots of cool choices, especially from the past - power amp has some bearing as well. At low volumes not so much, but when you crank them, there definitely is a difference. Oldies that might suit - ADA MP1, and the Kitty Hawk Quattro - pretty rare, and people are pretty proud of them price-wise.
 
Id recommend the mako mak4. That thing does pretty much any tone you can imagine. SUPER versatile, and sounds better than anything else Ive ever owned.

This video I made uses all 4 channels on the preamp. Gives a good idea of what it can sound like. All recorded direct using shitty free IRs, too.

EDIT: I didnt have a chance to read everything in here before responding, but if you want plexi sounds, DEFINITELY the mak4!! The crunch channel is plexi ALL OVER THE PLACE!! Makoplex is not quite your typical modded marshall tone, but its better and more articulate than any other modded marshall tone Ive heard. Clean is fendery sweet ass clean up to a little breakup, and the dorado channel is high gain heaven, though still has the hotrodded marshall background. Each channel is voiced a little differently, too...so you arent getting the same channel with added gain stages, you're getting 4 fully different and fully independent channels, and they all sound fucking FANTASTIC!!

 
+1 on the Mak4.
You can get a Mesa Quad or Triaxis for 8-900 bucks too.
 
ADA Depot 3TM "Ultra modded" MP-1 preamp.

Guitar George
 
Mak4, or E530. I had both, and really liked both. Peters also offers preamps with just about any two channels. I have heard a couple of them, and they really rock too!!!
 
Randall RM4 with 4 Custom Jaded faith mods or salvation mods modules of whatever your favorite amps are.. I have mine with a VHT/Freyette Ultra Lead for my high gain rhythm channel and a 1959RR Custom Marshall Swiss army knife module for mid gain, A bogner XTC on the red channel with the structure on for leads and a jf Superclean for clean tones... All of these preamp modules were custom made from Jadedfaithmods.com and theres proably close to if not more than 100 other preamp modules of pretty much any classic amplifier you could ever want!
and yes I am an MTS fan boy!
-mp-
 
rbasaria":1z4vmy90 said:
Id recommend the mako mak4. That thing does pretty much any tone you can imagine. SUPER versatile, and sounds better than anything else Ive ever owned.
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Would have to agree.
 
CAE 3+ or Soldano X88 are amazing. About as much as the Fish.
 
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