Greatwhite fire at the station in RI video, terrible tragedy

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I can't watch it...got about 20 seconds in and had that feeling in my gut like I was gonna hurl. :cry:
 
I've seen that too many times. I've played that stage close to 100 times too. My original band used to open for all the 80's bands there. We didn't play that one because we had a falling out with the owners a few months prior. I thank god for that.
 
Truly sad.
Amazing how fast it happened.
I don't think the camera guy did anything wrong.
When he was leaving, the whole place was in a panic and there was nothing he would have been able to do anyway.
I was in a public building once when it caught fire.
Luckily, it was not crowded like that and everyone got out.
Everyone had one thing on their mind.
GET THE FUCK OUT.
I am so sad for the losses at this place.
 
i don't understand how these people could just pile up on top of each other at the door and just be stuck there as long as they were. i mean they just all stopped and just bunched up at the door and they just stayed there for a good few minutes before the place went up- how could none of them move at all?
i mean i don't understand how that could happen unless they were all just so completely drunk that they couldn't move. i would start climbing over piled up bodies if i had to but i would get my ass out of there.

if it were me on the camera- he walked right up to the people stuck in the door and just kept taping- i would have put the camera down and started pulling people out of the way but then i wouldn't have a good youtube video i guess. jeez
 
Damn... That's HARDCORE :thumbsdown:
Those pyros in that small place was WAY too risky.
Bad decision.
RIP.
 
9ball":1kfcejru said:
i don't understand how these people could just pile up on top of each other at the door and just be stuck there as long as they were. i mean they just all stopped and just bunched up at the door and they just stayed there for a good few minutes before the place went up- how could none of them move at all?
i mean i don't understand how that could happen unless they were all just so completely drunk that they couldn't move. i would start climbing over piled up bodies if i had to but i would get my ass out of there.

if it were me on the camera- he walked right up to the people stuck in the door and just kept taping- i would have put the camera down and started pulling people out of the way but then i wouldn't have a good youtube video i guess. jeez
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those people didn't just stop at the door, when you have all those people pushing behind you, foward, you are stuck, you can see in that video, those guys are trying to pull them out and they aren't budging, you are packed in like sardines, you can't breath and you can't move, horrible, what a nightmare :no:
 
This was posted on another forum in regards to the Great White incident:

Well guys, I'm a pyrotech. I have 2 rules. Rule #1 No one is allowed to get hurt on my shoot. Rule #2 Any questions revert back to rule #1.
I do indoor shoots. Lots of them, or at least I used to.

They tried to pull that shit off at a club here in Atlanta the night before. I got a call from the staff and went by to take a look see.
They had already wired it up and were ready to shoot without the permission of the club. They didn't say shit to management.
They were breaking all the rules.
1. Ceiling was too low from emission point, hot fallout would be deflected to persons in the front row.
2. Stage was carpeted (fuel)
3. Patrons were too close to emission point. (clothes are fuel)
4. No permit. No Fire Marshall to OK the shoot and be present during shoot.
5. No test fire was done.
6. Lack of extinguishers.

Needless to say we yanked it all down right before the show started and I kept the gerbs and the fire control box. I gave the FC back after the show but kept the gerbs I had stashed in an ammo box in my trunk. I still have them in the same box.

The band and their manager as well as the management of the Station were at fault. They broke every rule and a lot of people paid the price with their lives. It made me sick. By 5am the night of the fire I had messages on my cell. (bad news travels fast in our biz) The next day I had pictures of the carnage.
This could have been my clients club had I've not not gone nuts yelling "Not no, but Hell no!" and had the gear ripped down and confiscated. The band was pissed and threatening me (1911 on my side concealed) I just told them the better chill or I'd hand the pyro over to the cop at the door and they could explain it all to the judge. So much for that. The show went on, they got paid and left town.
Fuck those guys, every one of them.

*First guy who says cool story bro can kiss my ass!
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9ball":1xvd6nou said:
i don't understand how these people could just pile up on top of each other at the door and just be stuck there as long as they were. i mean they just all stopped and just bunched up at the door and they just stayed there for a good few minutes before the place went up- how could none of them move at all?
i mean i don't understand how that could happen unless they were all just so completely drunk that they couldn't move. i would start climbing over piled up bodies if i had to but i would get my ass out of there.

if it were me on the camera- he walked right up to the people stuck in the door and just kept taping- i would have put the camera down and started pulling people out of the way but then i wouldn't have a good youtube video i guess. jeez
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You wouldn't have been climbing over anything, you would have been stuck like everyone else. The problem was, from what i remember, the club had another exit but it wasn't labeled with a sign or anything so people didn't use that, they all headed for the main front exit/entrance which was a single doorway. Absolute nightname.

What gets me, is why is that one guy just walking around by the entrance not helping? Not the cameraman, but there's another guy just walking by not doing anything. And yes, the jerk with the camera should have put the stupid camera down and helped to try to pull people out of that doorway.
 
I remember that. It was tragic and stupid. It never should've happened. :no:
 
danyeo":dvy0yi58 said:
You wouldn't have been climbing over anything, you would have been stuck like everyone else.
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they really need a rolleyes smiley here
 
9ball":2fa2j7ik said:
danyeo":2fa2j7ik said:
You wouldn't have been climbing over anything, you would have been stuck like everyone else.
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they really need a rolleyes smiley here
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Unless you knew the place, nobody can really say anything about how to get out. It was not set up for a huge amount of people to rush out of there. The stage door was supposedly blocked off by bouncers so the band could get out. Nobody knew it would get so bad so fast. There was really only one other way out and in order to get out you had to go through 2 sets of doors. All those people were not getting out of there on time with the way it was set up. I'd been in that place hundreds of times and ALWAYS stood near the door when seeing shows (or the stage door if I was playing). I lost a few friends in that fire that didn't have to die and also have a few friends who were burned pretty badly. The place was a deathtrap and it could have happened many times before...a lot of different bands did pyro in that place over the years.

My brother-in-law is a fireman that was on the scene that night and told me he's never seen anything like what he saw in that doorway. People COULDN'T get out...they were stacked 5 and 6 people high.
 
Once "panic" or "survival" mode hit, they all came to a stop because you can't fit 20 people through a door that's maybe 3 people wide at one time. People obviously started climbing on top of each other trying to get out. Same thing happens with somebody that can't swim, they will try to climb on top of the person trying to help them and push the helping person under water. If I remember correctly, they actually found some of those people still alive under the burned bodies that were on top of them.

Pyro never should have been allowed in that building.

On a side note: Great White also lost their guitar player as he ran to the other side of the stage and couldn't get out.
 
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