Greenland

[rsm]

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Seems to be par for the course with these European nations. DJT floats some random thought. Whatever country pitches a fit and does all kinds of posturing. Then in the end they walk it all back and want to talk.

I still don't see Denmark giving up Greenland to the US in any way, even by sale. If decent talks take place I see Denmark granting the US a good chunk of mineral rights and allowance for more security/military bases. In exchange the US would take on the role of protecting Greenland for Denmark an maybe some profit sharing sort of thing with the people of Greenland.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Seems to be par for the course with these European nations. DJT floats some random thought. Whatever country pitches a fit and does all kinds of posturing. Then in the end they walk it all back and want to talk.

I still don't see Denmark giving up Greenland to the US in any way, even by sale. If decent talks take place I see Denmark granting the US a good chunk of mineral rights and allowance for more security/military bases. In exchange the US would take on the role of protecting Greenland for Denmark a maybe some profit sharing sort of thing with the people of Greenland.

Prior to Trump talking about Greenland the Danes were pretty vocal about Greenland being in serious danger of coming under the thumb of Russia and China. The EU ignored them. Trump starts talking about securing Greenland and look what happens.

Fuckin Europeans. It’s hard not to just feel like they deserve their fate.

 

[JTyson]

It’s hilarious to watch these delusional mental midgets walk right into what they said would never happen because they they think the orange menace has no idea what he’s doing..
Equally hilarious is the left’s constant bleating about how “the whole world is laughing at us” while Trump makes a calculated statement that makes the do-nothing EU finally decide to do the thing he wanted all along.
If the left thinks they have 1 person in their ranks who could have pulled this off, they are just proving what mindless idiots they are..
Again and again..
And again and again..

Tell us who that 1 person would be JDs crotch, I’m dying to know.
Kamala Harris?
Tim Walz?
Biden?
Jasmine Crockett?
AOC?
Pete Buttplug?
Charveldan?

 

[Laputan Machine]

Is the plan we get Greenland in exchange for basically full commitment to get rid of Putin?
Da fuck is in Greenland? Their entire economy is based around fish.

Why would the US use Greenland for data centers instead of Alaska? Why would we mine rare Earths there when the largest deposits in the world are in Wyoming?

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Why would the US use Greenland for data centers instead of Alaska? Why would we mine rare Earths there when the largest deposits in the world are in Wyoming?

To supplement our needs so we don't burn though our own stockpile then become fully dependent on other countries for resources in the future.

 

[rsm]

Greenland is in a strategic position for air routes to Europe and Russia; in addition to the raw materials which have not been fully explored.

The US had bases there in WW2 to protect the convoys going to Europe. Both Russia and China have interest in Greenland, and Denmark isn't in a position to do much about it unless there's actual military conflict which is unlikely since they're part of NATO.

The US will probably negotiate to get access rights to areas of Greenland for permanent military bases, mining resources, etc., with conditions that limit Russian and Chinese access.

Too bad, we didn't take it during or after WW2.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Is the plan we get Greenland in exchange for basically full commitment to get rid of Putin?
Da fuck is in Greenland? Their entire economy is based around fish.

Why would the US use Greenland for data centers instead of Alaska? Why would we mine rare Earths there when the largest deposits in the world are in Wyoming?

Do you not understand the strategic importance of Greenland ?

 

[JackTripper]

Too bad, we didn't take it during or after WW2.

Maybe, but Hawaii and Alaska made more sense at the time.

 

[rsm]

Maybe, but Hawaii and Alaska made more sense at the time.

we already owned Alaska and Hawaii by that time. Greenland was ripe for the taking after WW2 with the devastation in Europe after the war.

Afterall, we're still occupying Germany and Japan today, though much less than in the past. Greenland would have been easy to occupy in 1945 if we wanted it then.

 

[70 Mach 1]

@dRump

 

[JackTripper]

we already owned Alaska and Hawaii by that time. Greenland was ripe for the taking after WW2 with the devastation in Europe after the war.

Afterall, we're still occupying Germany and Japan today, though much less than in the past. Greenland would have been easy to occupy in 1945 if we wanted it then.

I'm not disagreeing that it might have been easy to occupy Greenland, but for what purpose. The bigger threat would have come from the west, at least in the context of 1950s geopolitics. Today, it's different.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I'm not disagreeing that it might have been easy to occupy Greenland, but for what purpose. The bigger threat would have come from the west, at least in the context of 1950s geopolitics. Today, it's different.

No it wouldn’t. Just because we sat down with them at Potsdam, nobody was under the impression that the soviets were our friends. China sure as fuck wasn’t our enemy since we just saved their asses. Japan was done. Where was the threat from the west ?

 

[JackTripper]

No it wouldn’t. Just because we sat down with them at Potsdam, nobody was under the impression that the soviets were our friends.

That was my initial point, giving statehood to HI and AK as we were entering the peak of the cold war. We had a state, not a territory, 60 miles west from the Russian mainland. AK statehood made more strategic sense than occupying or owning Greenland. And easy and uninterrupted access to natural resources...

 

[Floyd Eye]

That was my initial point, giving statehood to HI and AK as we were entering the peak of the cold war. We had a state, not a territory, 60 miles west from the Russian mainland. AK statehood made more strategic sense than occupying or owning Greenland. And easy and uninterrupted access to natural resources...

They were both already US territories.

 

[JackTripper]

They were both already US territories.

And it didn't prevent them from getting attacked

 

[rsm]

And it didn't prevent them from getting attacked

Eastern Russia isn't vital to command and control, other than the naval base at Vladivostok - which I think is their only warm water port in the Pacific,

Greenland is closer to Moscow

 

[rsm]

Doesn't really matter to me; I didn't care before until it was brought up by Trump; I want Greenland on principle now.

 

[JackTripper]

Eastern Russia isn't vital to command and control, other than the naval base at Vladivostok - which I think is their only warm water port in the Pacific,

Greenland is closer to Moscow

Post war into the cold war, we had nuclear warheads scattered across Europe (UK, Italy) and middle east (Turkey) aimed at Moscow. Did Greenland really matter at that point?

 

[JackTripper]

Doesn't really matter to me; I didn't care before until it was brought up by Trump; I want Greenland on principle now.

That means the distraction is working.