Guitar rack without an effects loop

[mrkmas]

I was wondering what people use to run a rack setup if the amp does not have an effects loop. For example, if you wanted to run a twin reverb or any combo amp ( assume you dont want to mod a loop into it) with a rack setup. What options are there?

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

In this situation, many guys run a line out from the amplifier (usually some sort of a compensating box that you put between the power amp output and speaker), which then runs through a rack, into an individual power amp, and to separate speakers.

All your effects run through the new setup, while your orignal dry amp tone stays intact. Blend to taste with whatever effects you want!

Eric

 

[Zachman]

In this situation, many guys run a line out from the amplifier (usually some sort of a compensating box that you put between the power amp output and speaker), which then runs through a rack, into an individual power amp, and to separate speakers.

All your effects run through the new setup, while your orignal dry amp tone stays intact. Blend to taste with whatever effects you want!

Eric

^^ This ^^

 

[mrkmas]

The line out box you speak of would be something like this correct?
http://www.suhrguitars.com/tonetools.aspx#lineOut

Any other companies make comparable units to do this?

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

That would be it!

The Suhr box is most highly spoken of. I would go with it.

 

[steve_k]

I was wondering what people use to run a rack setup if the amp does not have an effects loop. For example, if you wanted to run a twin reverb or any combo amp ( assume you dont want to mod a loop into it) with a rack setup. What options are there?

That would be called a pedal board..........

 

[mrkmas]

I was wondering what people use to run a rack setup if the amp does not have an effects loop. For example, if you wanted to run a twin reverb or any combo amp ( assume you dont want to mod a loop into it) with a rack setup. What options are there?

That would be called a pedal board..........

I meant more so if you have lets say a Gmajor2 and want to run it with a combo with no loop. without any mods, the only way would be a line out box like the suhr line out box and another poweramp and speakers? Only reason I ask is that I may downgrade my amp, and the one I like doesn't have a loop. I'm not sure if i will need to get rid of the gmajor2

 

[university81]

I was wondering what people use to run a rack setup if the amp does not have an effects loop. For example, if you wanted to run a twin reverb or any combo amp ( assume you dont want to mod a loop into it) with a rack setup. What options are there?

That would be called a pedal board..........

I meant more so if you have lets say a Gmajor2 and want to run it with a combo with no loop. without any mods, the only way would be a line out box like the suhr line out box and another poweramp and speakers? Only reason I ask is that I may downgrade my amp, and the one I like doesn't have a loop. I'm not sure if i will need to get rid of the gmajor2

in the case of a purely clean combo you could run dirt pedals etc.. and the g major2 in front of the amp, routing them accordingly
i just run pedals in front of a clean amp works great for what i do

 

[petejt]

I was wondering what people use to run a rack setup if the amp does not have an effects loop. For example, if you wanted to run a twin reverb or any combo amp ( assume you dont want to mod a loop into it) with a rack setup. What options are there?

I wouldn't even bother with an effects loop at all.

Just run one of the speaker outputs from the Twin Reverb or other combo amp, into a load/line out box. You can use an attenuator with line out like the THD Hotplate, Suhr make a line level box, Custom Audio Electronics also have one. There's a few out there. It basically loads the amp so it won't blow up, and converts that speaker signal into a line level signal.

Just feed that line level signal into your effects, then into a separate poweramp and speakers. You still have the original dry signal of the combo amp feeding its main speaker, which is crucial to keep your main tone intact. Voila!