Guitar tech gurus. Question about intonation (pic included)

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I've fluctuated between 9 and 10's for years, never had to adjust anything other than Floyd spring tension.
 
they all effect the intonation of fretted notes. which is a bit more complicated than just Length. Especially if the guitar is set a certain way from the factory. everything else has been mention by other already no need to repeat as Spiderwars already mentioned in his edit why this effects intonation.

@john4021 , link me a measuring tape that gets that fine. simple mistype, no need to be an ignorant prick, in Canada and most of the rest of the world we have adopted the Metric system. a simple did you mean MM or Inches? would have made me go, oh shit, I typed mm instead of IN or ("), the measurements I used is OBVIOUSLY in inches.
 
With all due respect, I don't believe for a second that the string gauge is an issue. As other said, it's.001 of an inch. Sure, it may have a minor effect. I guarantee I could set this guitar up perfectly in an hour or two with any string gauge. Guitars are built with adjustments for this reason. Not rocket science.
 
Dave Rocks":24qbvxid said:
With all due respect, I don't believe for a second that the string gauge is an issue. As other said, it's.001 of an inch. Sure, it may have a minor effect. I guarantee I could set this guitar up perfectly in an hour or two with any string gauge. Guitars are built with adjustments for this reason. Not rocket science.
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Fair, I can agree to disagree.

rocket science? lol you are the one bring trig into this :lol: :LOL:

If i were talking about a single string, sure i would agree with you, but when your dealing with a factory string set of ~106lbs of total tension and switching to a lighter set 9-42 that is around 86lbs of total tension. IMHO, i think that will make a noticeable difference. not huge, but noticeable.

i'm just saying, he didn't mention anything about adjusting the neck. it will be much faster to just slap on 10's if it isn't a problem to play on 10's and set intonation.

With how frustrated the OP sounded, it didn't seem like he wanted MORE work.
 
Like I said, I'm very handy and have the tools to do fret leveling and basic setups. The frets are perfect and I've set the guitar perfectly to the Suhr specs that were emailed to me. Three sets of strings and it still freaks out on the high E.

FWIW, I've lowered the pickups when intonating to avoid statititis...or whatever it's called

I talked with the guys from Suhr on the phone and he said it sounded like a bad string. I also registered on the Suhr forum but can't figure out how to attach a pic

Thanks for all your help
 
That bench looks like mine :) Well, I use my kitchen countertop.

I typically remove the neck (bolt on's obviously) when doing fret levels.
 
Lord Toneking":9os0nm6r said:
Like I said, I'm very handy and have the tools to do fret leveling and basic setups. The frets are perfect and I've set the guitar perfectly to the Suhr specs that were emailed to me. Three sets of strings and it still freaks out on the high E.

FWIW, I've lowered the pickups when intonating to avoid statititis...or whatever it's called

I talked with the guys from Suhr on the phone and he said it sounded like a bad string. I also registered on the Suhr forum but can't figure out how to attach a pic

Thanks for all your help
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I think you are being modest about your capabilities.

I've never gotten three bad strings in a row, atleast personally. Not saying it isn't possible, I've just never seen it from D'addario, but all coming out of the same pack of 3/set, if there was a QC issue on that particular run of strings, it could make sense.
 
eternal_idol":1frxipz6 said:
Lord Toneking":1frxipz6 said:
Like I said, I'm very handy and have the tools to do fret leveling and basic setups. The frets are perfect and I've set the guitar perfectly to the Suhr specs that were emailed to me. Three sets of strings and it still freaks out on the high E.

FWIW, I've lowered the pickups when intonating to avoid statititis...or whatever it's called

I talked with the guys from Suhr on the phone and he said it sounded like a bad string. I also registered on the Suhr forum but can't figure out how to attach a pic

Thanks for all your help
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I think you are being modest about your capabilities.

I've never gotten three bad strings in a row, atleast personally. Not saying it isn't possible, I've just never seen it from D'addario, but all coming out of the same pack of 3/set, if there was a QC issue on that particular run of strings, it could make sense.
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I agree 100%. I seem to recall one bad string my entire life....
 
Does the guitar have a Buzz Feiten nut? If so, don't they have to be intonated differently? Just a shot in the dark. :confused:
 
Out of whack neck relief will play havoc on tuning as well.

Personally, I've never known going down a gauge string would be such an issue as much as going up, and nut slots too narrow.
 
a 3000+ guitar should intonate fairly easily regardless of going from 10's to 9's or E-Eb tuning.

I'd take it in to someone to attempt to do it for if they can't then send to to Suhr but chances are its a neck tweak or the nut.
 
Could be the nut.

But just for a try, put your pickups all way down (height); use the harmonic at 12 fret for tune the string, then check the pitch pressing the 12.
And use a good tuner. I like the TC Polytune, but there are better ones.
 
I would remove the spring and see if you can get it like that, if not next do the nut, the string change wont effect it that much so thats not the problem...after that send it to the builder has another issue the distance between the nut and saddles would have to be messed up somehow(unlikley)..
 
Can't see Suhr letting out a guitar with a nut cut so poorly the high E won't intonate. Try lowering the saddle height a bit.
 
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