Hagen...

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I think I've made the decision I want one.

I've got a number of fine amps, including the VH4S. I've had a V in my life longer than any other one amp (outside of a couple combo boutiquers I've had for 15+ years). I play my Bogner 20thA more, and that's only because of the fact it's more organic. I love the precision and tone and beauty of the V, absolutely love it. I use it, but I don't play it, if that makes any sense. I can with more ease convey my soul through my 20thA than I can my V, with the V, I have to know in advance what it is I am looking for - and play it right. It sounds incredible, but I'm left kinda thinking it wasn't as FUN to play as some other amps.

Looseness.

I think I am a fan of looser more playable amps. I believe the Hagen was created to fill this niche. I am going to buy one, and keep my V, just in case, but if this is Diezel's response to the looser, grindier, chewier, raunchier tones out there, with a signature Diezel stamp of family approval and inherent tone, it's a no brainer for me :D

Peace,
V.

EDIT: Just wanted to get this out there, maybe get some feedback from the Peters, tell me if my assumption is correct, etc. etc. :yes:
 
I'm not a long time Diezel user, in fact, I've only played a VH4 once for about an hour at a friends house. But that hour left an impression on me.
After reading descriptions on how the Hagen differs from a VH4, combined with my hour of hands-on, I knew I would be placing an order.
I'm hoping the "looseness" is in there too.

This will be my first "brand new" amp. It's a lot of coin, but I think it will fit my playing style nicely.
I'm looking forward to joining the Diezel family. Seem to be a pretty cool bunch of guys (killer musicians as well)

Sorry V. Hope I don't derail your thread and turn it into a "my Hagen story" thread.

Now to get my chops in shape, because I know the first words out of everyone's mouth will be "clips!!!". :lol: :LOL:

R~
 
I get what you mean Ventura. Just order a Hagen, and play the shit out of it, make a few videos and let us know if it beats you Bogner in the fun department
 
Well, V, count me in the same boat. It takes some years and a good amount of amps to find out what one really can work with, eh? Usually not what one IMAGINES or HOPES will work. So, yes, looseness (organic sound?) is what makes me feel the amp and keeps my fingers on the fretboard for hours on end. However, there is always a degrees of sacrifice. The amps of both manufacturers in question are great, but I can understand why so many times people say "either / or", although I would definitely say I'm somewhere in the middle (haha, how diplomatic). ;)

Anyway, even though I thought I would give Diezel a rest for a while, the new Hagen definitely has my interest, exactly for the reasons you mentioned. Get it and make us buy one, too! ;)
 
No hijacking involved Studio289, I'm cool with whatever Braddah... But ya, this is what's getting me excited about the Hagen, might be the loose, gnawing beast with the signature Diezel tone. As for the post above, from Vienna no less (cool, servus!! Gruess, 'de Gott!!), Diezel's signature tone is my addiction, now I'm just finding a way to deliver it that will get my groove on.

I'll keep the VH4S, as I'd feel kinda naked without it in the backline :lol: :LOL:

Aaag, more coffee needed... :doh:

V.
 
you know I also believe things are different when you're constantly playing with a band instead of at home. with a band the VH4 cuts like a knife and with the addition of a bass guitar supporting the drums you feel the "sag" that's missing in the vh4 when you play it alone.
 
i my as well order one too . what the hell :rock:

or just wait til Mojo or Steve K sell theirs... :lol: :LOL:
 
PaulyPanacea":1emkuizf said:
i my as well order one too . what the hell :rock:

or just wait til Mojo or Steve K sell theirs... :lol: :LOL:
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Now now... Between Steve and me, I ain't the flipper :D

I think you know me as a fairly long-hold on my gear I choose to keep. But the Hagen is giving me wood. Just wish there were better clips, or shall I say, more numerous quality clips out there of what it is capable of.

Peace,
V.
 
PaulyPanacea":1mf7tmxu said:
relax now Mojo....we know the truth :D
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What, that I bukkake my gear on a regular basis?? :lol: :LOL:

Not that there's anything wrong with this...

HAGEN WOODY!!! Whooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! GET DOWN!!!!!!

V. :D
 
I am thinking a hagen n a vh4 run together with an amp selector that can volley between the vh and a real Plexi... I am gonna try it, Want to experiment with a fish switchinhing in, Problem is who is gonna carry it?!? So I AM hoping the Hagen is bitching stand Alone, when I have played tge VH4 I wished it was less compressed warmer etc!! I am dreaming Hagen, ordered one from Brad_____It will be fun to see clips__ I have a feeling we are all gonna pull really diffrent sounds out if this amp---
I never thought vh4 was flexible Bitchin gain sound and nothing else best.. Maybe Hagen will change this
 
Sounds like the Hagen is the bigger badass version of the Einstein, with the ALL the extra trimmings. I LOVE my Einny but do wish I could control the Eq and Gain/Vol controls for each mod. on ch. 1. But I did wish it had just alil' bit more tightness. Looks like I may need to place an order too!
 
freeballinusa":3jdqugqv said:
I am thinking a hagen n a vh4 run together with an amp selector that can volley between the vh and a real Plexi... I am gonna try it, Want to experiment with a fish switchinhing in, Problem is who is gonna carry it?!? So I AM hoping the Hagen is bitching stand Alone, when I have played tge VH4 I wished it was less compressed warmer etc!! I am dreaming Hagen, ordered one from Brad_____It will be fun to see clips__ I have a feeling we are all gonna pull really diffrent sounds out if this amp---
I never thought vh4 was flexible Bitchin gain sound and nothing else best.. Maybe Hagen will change this
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Enter, Adam Jones...

V.
 
Ventura":tfmzx014 said:
I play my Bogner 20thA more, and that's only because of the fact it's more organic.
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How often do you water it - being organic and stuff? :D
 
King Crimson":1syqugph said:
Ventura":1syqugph said:
I play my Bogner 20thA more, and that's only because of the fact it's more organic.
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How often do you water it - being organic and stuff? :D
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Well you know, couple times a week. I take it for walks, we go to the local vegan restaurant, and then do vipassana yoga every Wednesday. Lately we're finding that Birkenstocks are better than the stock casters found on most of the 4x12s. We just feel it's better for form and tone. We're going with a hemp based grille cloth as well, and the tolex is a soy based insulative spray. Overall tone and 'ethereal projection' is enhanced with a few quartz and geode crystals in front of the Middle and Pre EQ buttons, but these ought to be moved around based on your experience and tastes, not mine.

Peace,
V.
 
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