Help ! Dead spots !

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I've found three fvcking dead spots on my axe ...
8 and 14 fret on D string and 11 fret on bass E .
Geeez , I'm really pissed , what can I do cure that ? Cause I know that we can't eliminate dead spots ...
I'm very like that guitar and I'm strongly wants to do something with that !

Of course , i can mask these sounds in playing but you know - in my head i just know that in these area I have dead spots ...
I must mention that I'm sure that is dead spots, because when I get in tune with drop D , the dead spots are still there but 2 frets up.
 
EnGl":3sums0ad said:
I've found three fvcking dead spots on my axe ...
8 and 14 fret on D string and 11 fret on bass E .
Geeez , I'm really pissed , what can I do cure that ? Cause I know that we can't eliminate dead spots ...
I'm very like that guitar and I'm strongly wants to do something with that !

Of course , i can mask these sounds in playing but you know - in my head i just know that in these area I have dead spots ...
I must mention that I'm sure that is dead spots, because when I get in tune with drop D , the dead spots are still there but 2 frets up.
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You can try correcting the neck bow but it could be a sign of a high fret. Have you sighted the neck?
 
The neck was set up properly.

And as i said - NO , it isn't high fret. Why ?
When i detune to drop D , the dead spots are still existing , but 2 postinions higher :
- 10 and 16 fret on D string
- 13 fret on bass E


How i can deal with that ? I've heard from maaany people that Dead spots are attached to all stringed instruments.
 
EnGl":k62xlzeh said:
The neck was set up properly.

And as i said - NO , it isn't high fret. Why ?
When i detune to drop D , the dead spots are still existing , but 2 postinions higher :
- 10 and 16 fret on D string
- 13 fret on bass E


How i can deal with that ? I've heard from maaany people that Dead spots are attached to all stringed instruments.
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If they move with tuning they are dead spots. What type of bridge is on the guitar? Sometimes making sure the saddles are making good contact can help some. Not much you can do with dead spots without replacing th eneck. They make a headstock weight that can fix it but it looks like crap. Another way to tell is to put back pressure on the headstock. If they go away they are dead spots.
 
personally i would remove the strings, loosen the truss rod to neutral, and remove the neck. i would make sure the neck pocket is a tight fit. secondly i would leave the neck off for about 7 days in a humidity controlled room away from direct sunlight or cold air and let the neck naturally settle with no tension. If the neck is rosewood or ebony, clean the wood with preferred fretboard cleaning solution, and then apply new motor oil. wipe access clean.

i would then bolt it back, new strings, set the bow of the neck properly and do a re-setup.

if that does not work i would check to make sure the scale length is exactly 25.5" or 24.75". If the neck is a neck through or set neck, then you cannot remove it but can only hope checking other details like bridge posts, setup/intionation, etc. plus the above oiling depending on certain woods.

Nothing else you can really do.
 
EnGl":et6huepf said:
I've heard from maaany people that Dead spots are attached to all stringed instruments.
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I have more guitars than I can count and I can assure you not one of them has a single dead spot. :confused:
 
yeti":2fbpbrg7 said:
by dead spot, do you mean fret buzz?
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Nah, Its when the note decays fast and goes into a harmonic. It has to do with the wood in the neck resonating on the same frequency as the note that is dead and canceling it out. PRS are good for this and Fender as well.
 
I've got a set-neck ...

So add a neck relief can help a bit ?

I will call them medium dead spots , because they don't bother me veeeery much ...


P.S - I recorded that Dead spot on my PC. Please listen.
 
EnGl":3rm3ebtg said:
I've got a set-neck ...

So add a neck relief can help a bit ?

I will call them medium dead spots , because they don't bother me veeeery much ...


P.S - I recorded that Dead spot on my PC. Please listen.
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Those notes are decaying fine. A dead spot note dies off much faster than those and goes into a harmonic. Why exactly are you thinking these are dead spots?
 
These notes are decaying fine ? Fuck me , thank you. You calmed me down.

Why I think they are dead spots ? Because when I change channel to overdrive , and pick a note , they sound wavy , unequal. Only on overdrive channel.
Because as you see , or I should say - what you hear and diagnosed - they sound fine on clean.

I wonder what it could be ? Maybe it's fault of my palm muting or what ? I mean I can "arouse" another sound that can interfere with picked tone ?
I don't know , because when I slightly mute the strings while soloing - they ringing almost ok ( almost because of my practice) , but when I DON'T mute ( let it rings) i gain a unequal and wavy sound ...
 
Its a set up issue not a dead spot. Wavy sounds like intonation to me. I use a turbo tuner and can get my intonation spot on. Its in your set up dude. Frets are very funny. I would never let anyone but a highly regarded tech knonw to do great fretwork touch my guitars.
 
Are you 100% sure that is a intonation issue ?

I've set up intonation perfectly , but maybe my tuner is fucked or what ? It is Boss TU80.

I can turn a very bit tuner and it still show me that I'm in tune.
 
You more than likely have a fret issue. I am very picky about who does my fret jobs. I have Joe Glaser do all my fret jobs. He is a co-owner of PLEK and had the first machine in the US.

I would consider having your frets PLEK'ed. Joe does a great job here in Nashville. Suhr guitars also offers this service, at a very reasonable price.
 
Yes , But I'm living in Poland ...

And no , it can't be fret issue.( i said that in my first post)
Because when I drop my tuning to D , dead spots move 2 fret up ...
 
EnGl":367b3f0n said:
Yes , But I'm living in Poland ...

And no , it can't be fret issue.( i said that in my first post)
Because when I drop my tuning to D , dead spots move 2 fret up ...
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EnGl":kqdu753v said:
Yes , But I'm living in Poland ...

And no , it can't be fret issue.( i said that in my first post)
Because when I drop my tuning to D , dead spots move 2 fret up ...
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PLEKHAUS in Berlin is the closest location with a PLEK machine to you.
 
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