Totally tried these when I first got my Herbert and they were very extreme in some cases. I have no idea how you can roll the gain that high on some of the channel 2+ settings let alone the 3 settings. I think I was just overwhelmed with how saturated the amplifier can get and how bassy the amp can get with some of those deep settings. I have found sweet spots on the gain knob in the 10:00-11:30 range really and the tone knobs are typically near center. The presence and deep knobs really contour the sound from there. Amazing amp, and a little goes a long long way. Lowering the gain and using medium to medium high output pickups along with your articulation really makes the beast shine.