Herbert + vs. -

[Ampaddict]

is the + boost a tubescreamer type circuit? or does it plug the signal thru another tube?

Does anyone notice a low end loss on the + vs. the -?

 

[Peter Diezel]

Only change resistor/cap network

 

[Bato]

Oh yes! "-" has much more low end then "+". But it´s not only more, it´s more tight and "punchy". Great sound!

 

[Ampaddict]

my constant battle is to - or to + on channel 2.

 

[Bato]

Well, that´s the reason i made the little mod myself. It´s really a battle.
- is so dynamic. Almost like a Ken Fisher Trainwreck but with more balls.

But the amp is more a 3 ch. amp with - than +. Ok there is a difference between 2nd + and the 3rd channel but not as huge as -.

I prefer - with gain at 3h. But it´s a little bit too much for +.
But I´m thinking about to use the 2nd+ as leadsound and the 3rd for heavier rhythm.

 

[Ampaddict]

Well, that´s the reason i made the little mod myself. It´s really a battle.
- is so dynamic. Almost like a Ken Fisher Trainwreck but with more balls.

But the amp is more a 3 ch. amp with - than +. Ok there is a difference between 2nd + and the 3rd channel but not as huge as -.

I prefer - with gain at 3h. But it´s a little bit too much for +.
But I´m thinking about to use the 2nd+ as leadsound and the 3rd for heavier rhythm.

That MOD would be cool.
But I'd still have to go back and crank the gain when it's set to "-".
So with "+" I have a bit more gain than the "-" max'ed out. Does that make sense?
But your rght; it's really similar to channel 3 than. I DO like the options of trying each channel with the Mid Cut or with out. It essentially gives you 4 different gain sounds. And you never know which one will work per song, guitar; or venue/club.

 

[Bato]

Of course you have more gain at +. It´s more compressed, that´s why - has more bottom end.

The volume is the same at gain 1 o´clock. But i don´t hear any difference at my 3h even. Only if you go less than 1h the + will sound louder.

But the best thing about ch2- is the git.vol response. From nearly clean (with hb, with sc really clean) to even more than hard rock gain. Like a one channel amp. That is amazing!

 

[Ampaddict]

I've gotta try the - this weekends gig. I was super happy w/ the modern tunes last gig, but the classic songs weren't quite there since I used "+".
I know I have used a Keeley mod DS-1 before with the "-" with exceptional results. But I don't use pedals very much now.

 

[Bato]

I think you´ll like - for trad. sounds. It sounds like a Marshall(DSL, love this amp) with more bottom but less distortion. You can even get the brightness like DSL is for these sounds.
This little cheap f****** amp sounds like hell.

 

[Ampaddict]

I am trying the "-" tonight live! I'm digging the tone I dialed in w/ the "-" right now. And I usually like it until I re-try the "+". It's a bit warmer w/ the "+" and more gain usually feels better. But the cleaner "-" tone is extremely tight on the bottom.