Here's how M. Cameron can ruin a good amp ...

[charveldan]

Nice ...

Great work, good to see an actual amp on a amp forum.

 

[richardt4520]

That's my old Aldrich. Killer amp

That's my amp for the last 2 years. Best sounding and playing amp I've ever owned and I've owned all the usual suspects in the $4000 range. It's saved me a lot of money since I don't lust after other amps anymore. I don't care if Mark threw up in it. Sounds pretty damned good to me: https://soundcloud.com/richard-tull-1/richard-tull-inferno-solo

 

[TrueTone500]

I agree! I was going to send my amp to Mark Cameron for a complete rebuild, but decided to do it myself.

Here's the stock Straight Edge build...



Here's my rebuild. Excuse my dust... I had just gotten through with the build. I still need to clean up the pots, but that's for another day. What do you think?




I even installed in-board mounted NOS McMurdo sockets!

I have to admit, that looks fucking killer!

How's it sound?

It sounds incredible!

I deleted the unsolicited details... Nobody cares about that stuff.

 

[Racerxrated]

That's my old Aldrich. Killer amp

That's my amp for the last 2 years. Best sounding and playing amp I've ever owned and I've owned all the usual suspects in the $4000 range. It's saved me a lot of money since I don't lust after other amps anymore. I don't care if Mark threw up in it. Sounds pretty damned good to me: https://soundcloud.com/richard-tull-1/richard-tull-inferno-solo

I agree with you Richard. Cameron modded Marshalls are in a class of their own..best modded Marshall tone period.

 

[xXDaveyJonesXx]

That's my old Aldrich. Killer amp

That's my amp for the last 2 years. Best sounding and playing amp I've ever owned and I've owned all the usual suspects in the $4000 range. It's saved me a lot of money since I don't lust after other amps anymore. I don't care if Mark threw up in it. Sounds pretty damned good to me: https://soundcloud.com/richard-tull-1/richard-tull-inferno-solo

Oh, of course you've got the Friedman licks locked down.

GEEZUZ!

 

[Racerxrated]

Yeah Richard's pretty good isn't he? Amazing player...

 

[charveldan]

This seems to be the secret sauce in the bast Marshall toan.

I better send Friedman a link ...

 

[ibenhad]

To anyone here watching Game of Thrones, Dan is like Hodor. The big slow guy that just walks around saying his own name. Dan just walks around saying "Friedman Friedman Friedman". Parents in his hood tell their kids to stay away from that weird Friedman guy. Sad really. And to think they say any publicity is good publicity, in this case I would have to disagree.

 

[charveldan]

To anyone here watching Game of Thrones, Dan is like Hodor. The big slow guy that just walks around saying his own name. Dan just walks around saying "Friedman Friedman Friedman". Parents in his hood tell their kids to stay away from that weird Friedman guy. Sad really. And to think they say any publicity is good publicity, in this case I would have to disagree.

Not based in reality, I just did a 20 mile road ride on my TREK. At Starbucks 7a starting a great day that's going to be busy.
Your " Dan analogy" is fabrication at best.
U don't know me at all but whatever.
BTW it would have been 50 miles but got rain on radar.

 

[richardt4520]

This seems to be the secret sauce in the bast Marshall toan.

I better send Friedman a link ...

Man, if that's what's doing it, send me a few tubes. I'll fill the rest of the chassis up.

 

[richardt4520]

And thanks for the props, xXDaveyJonesXx and Racerxrated but I've got a loooong way to go to get anywhere near as good I want to be. lol

And in the interest of full disclosure, that's a Marty Friedman tune with Marty doing all the playing except the solos I did at the intro, 1:49 through 2:22, and 3:29 through the end of the song. I was just trying to hang with what he did. He's such a killer player! I think that Aldrich had no trouble keeping up tone-wise though.

 

[joepete77]

Someone made a good point above that even though the goop looks like shit, these things change owners and at least the goop guarantees that nobody else has fucked around with the original spec of the mod. I once had an original Jose modded jmp. I took it to a tech to have some minor work done. When I picked it up he had told me that as a favor he had changed the some of the parts around to lower the noise level with the gain maxed. It never sounded near as good from then on and before I never needed to ever have the gain more then half up anyway so it wasn't noisy in a bad way. So pissed. Maybe the goop could have prevented this?

 

[TrueTone500]

I agree! I was going to send my amp to Mark Cameron for a complete rebuild, but decided to do it myself.



I have to admit, that looks fucking killer!

How's it sound?

I added a couple of pics. Kester 60/40 solder was used throughout, with 2 x heat-sinks on all RC connection points.

Stock Straight Edge build...






Here's my rebuild... Excuse my dust! I had just gotten through with the build. I still need to clean up the pots, but that's for another day. What do you think?




Rebuilding the bridge rectifier/preamp filtering assembly was a mother!



I even installed in-board mounted NOS McMurdo sockets. The progression goes (L to R) V1 - V3 - V2 - V4.

 

[richardt4520]

I guess gooping probably keeps people from copying the circuit. Maybe some of these other builders like Cornford should've done that.

 

[Racerxrated]

Yes that's exactly why he does that, to protect the circuit. Don't know much about Dumble but maybe that's what he did? Thought I'd heard that somewhere. Guys seriously..I've had EVERY type of modded Marshall come through here and the Cameron's have just had that something extra..Fortin, Gower, Voodoo, Friedman, you name it I probably had it in here. Unless you have played a Cameron in front of you, you'll never know because clips can be shit. I bought an '87 2205 and it sounds killer. Tried to record it the other day on my phone and it sounded TERRIBLE lol...so you can't trust clips unless you do it the right way with a mic etc..BTW Richard that tone was awesome!

 

[FourT6and2]

What's that thing that looks like a laptop power supply? Right next to the standby switch

Most likely it is for the DC heater supply... Keeps the amps very quiet. is is most likely some type of laptop or similar power supply. They are pretty commonly used. I am not an amp builder but I would mount them with a small metal bracket or epoxy a metal case and put it inside of that.. I have seen one come loose in an amp due to the silicone letting go..

No. No they are not.

People who do things the right way will build their own regulated DC supplies to fit the amp, not retro fit whatever hack-job parts they have laying around their garbage dump of a bench space. Especially if they're charging for their services. I'd flip the fuck out if I paid a tech to work on an amp of mine and it came back with retro-fitted laptop parts.

 

[richardt4520]

Yes that's exactly why he does that, to protect the circuit. Don't know much about Dumble but maybe that's what he did? Thought I'd heard that somewhere. Guys seriously..I've had EVERY type of modded Marshall come through here and the Cameron's have just had that something extra..Fortin, Gower, Voodoo, Friedman, you name it I probably had it in here. Unless you have played a Cameron in front of you, you'll never know because clips can be shit. I bought an '87 2205 and it sounds killer. Tried to record it the other day on my phone and it sounded TERRIBLE lol...so you can't trust clips unless you do it the right way with a mic etc..BTW Richard that tone was awesome!

It's the amp, man! I don't know Cameron and could care less about the build of an amp or what it looks like inside anymore than a painter cares about how a paintbrush is made. It's just a hammer to me. But when you play an amp that inspires you to do play things you wouldn't normally play, THAT is cool. if a Friedman or whatever gives you that, more power to ya! But in 30+ years of playing, I've never played other amps that felt the way these do. Maybe I need to start having goop and laptop power supplies installed in all my amps because they sure sound good that way.

 

[TrueTone500]

I guess gooping probably keeps people from copying the circuit. Maybe some of these other builders like Cornford should've done that.

By that logic, Fender and Mesa/Boogie should have gooped their circuits to keep builders like Marshall, Hiwatt, Carlsbro, Park, Soldano, VHT, Germino, Blockhead, Bogner, Cornford, Cameron, Rhodes, Victoria, Krank, Roccaforte, Metro, Friedman, Blackstar, Dumble, Diezel, ENGL, Hughes & Kettner, Komet, Traynor, Music Man, Ampeg, Peavey, and Laney from copying their designs.

Goop the planet!

 

[richardt4520]

Nah, man-I'm just making light of it! Would I like to have bought it without any of that in there? Hell yeah! haha! As scary as that thing looks inside, it really sounds insanely good. How? Hell if I know. But I play it for hours a day and have to make myself stop when my hands are getting tired. I haven't had an amp do that since I bought my first JCM800 combo and hooked it up to a power soak when I was a teenager. I don't know anything technically about what's under the hood and it's probably simple stuff to you, but I got that feel out of all 3 of the Camerons I had.

 

[TrueTone500]

Nah, man-I'm just making light of it! Would I like to have bought it without any of that in there? Hell yeah! haha! As scary as that thing looks inside, it really sounds insanely good. How? Hell if I know. But I play it for hours a day and have to make myself stop when my hands are getting tired. I haven't had an amp do that since I bought my first JCM800 combo and hooked it up to a power soak when I was a teenager. I don't know anything technically about what's under the hood and it's probably simple stuff to you, but I got that feel out of all 3 of the Camerons I had.

That's why I said; "...it's about what YOU like." Extreme preamp gain just doesn't work for me. It use to, and as a matter of fact, I purchased a Rocktron Piranha preamp to mess around with. Don't know if I'll like it, but it may be fun to add some of those extreme gain tones to a few songs.

The RK100 can get generate some incredible preamp gain tones, but I don't use it that way. I've owned one Cameron modded amp, and it was a great amp, yet I sold it. I started playing Cornford amps 6-7 years ago, and have been playing them ever since. It's the sound that works for me.