Honest question for conservative members here at R-T

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It is what it is..
It’s got some legit uses, but it was flat out wrong in the context used.. It is strange that a key promise made was left out entirely and it was flat out wrong about another item. Why that would be is another conversation altogether
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Robostyle said:
In other words, it's bullshit
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I wrote and deployed my first AI system (an expert system) in the dark ages (late 1980s). I've worked in AI, databases/data science, distributed systems, user interaction, and other tech areas until I retired. Since that first AI system, I've created / co-created many AI systems, my last job was CTO at a large tech company with AI products and AI enhanced products, and solutions.

My favorite work period was in the '00s, where I worked for my favorite employer (of the 9-10 companies I worked for over 40 years in the tech industry) I did research and created solutions on distributed, multi-agent systems, mobile intelligent agents, peer-to-peer, genetic algorithms, swarms and swarm intelligence, etc.. This work has seen a recent renewed interest in current agentic AI development.

Every AI system I've worked on reduced/simplified the human skills needed to perform tasks, eliminated the need for humans to perform tasks, or some combination of both. Many AI systems started out as assistants for knowledge/data workers, but over time replaced those workers.

Generative AI (ChatGPT, Copilot, etc.) has made an exponential leap over traditional AI, while building on it; agentic AI is the next step; and the progress is accelerating...and we haven't seen AI + quantum computing though there is active work on it...

Robotics still lags behind AI development, however I expect that to change in the next 10 years, but AI is also being used to create, accelerate and expand robotics technology development.

TL;DR; AI isn't magic, nor is it bullshit; it works, and it will improve, accelerate and will be able to do more and more complex tasks.

For example, one large area is AI's increasing role in work on curing diseases, drug discoveries and development, and more. AI is already surpassing experienced human radiologists, and assisting anesthesiology...only a matter of time before AI makes human anesthesiologists obsolete.
 
rsm said:
I wrote and deployed my first AI system (an expert system) in the dark ages (late 1980s). I've worked in AI, databases/data science, distributed systems, user interaction, and other tech areas until I retired. Since that first AI system, I've created / co-created many AI systems, my last job was CTO at a large tech company with AI products and AI enhanced products, and solutions.

My favorite work period was in the '00s, where I worked for my favorite employer (of the 9-10 companies I worked for over 40 years in the tech industry) I did research and created solutions on distributed, multi-agent systems, mobile intelligent agents, peer-to-peer, genetic algorithms, swarms and swarm intelligence, etc.. This work has seen a recent renewed interest in current agentic AI development.

Every AI system I've worked on reduced/simplified the human skills needed to perform tasks, eliminated the need for humans to perform tasks, or some combination of both. Many AI systems started out as assistants for knowledge/data workers, but over time replaced those workers.

Generative AI (ChatGPT, Copilot, etc.) has made an exponential leap over traditional AI, while building on it; agentic AI is the next step; and the progress is accelerating...and we haven't seen AI + quantum computing though there is active work on it...

Robotics still lags behind AI development, however I expect that to change in the next 10 years, but AI is also being used to create, accelerate and expand robotics technology development.

TL;DR; AI isn't magic, nor is it bullshit; it works, and it will improve, accelerate and will be able to do more and more complex tasks.

For example, one large area is AI's increasing role in work on curing diseases, drug discoveries and development, and more. AI is already surpassing experienced human radiologists, and assisting anesthesiology...only a matter of time before AI makes human anesthesiologists obsolete.
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I appreciate your take on this, and respect it.
But i still don't rust it and never will.
Maybe that makes me a Luddite, IDK.
 
Robostyle said:
I appreciate your take on this, and respect it.
But i still don't rust it and never will.
Maybe that makes me a Luddite, IDK.
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Remember, ChatGPT is free; you get what you pay for.

Like free Google, Bing,.. search, free ChatGPT is doing research for free by providing a service to people using it. That is, the users are working for free and helping ChatGPT improve.
 
I just keep finding out that technology is great, when it works as intended.
My stuff seems to almost never work as intended.
Every device is needlessly complicated, with a ton of features that i don't want or need.
 
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rsm said:
I wrote and deployed my first AI system (an expert system) in the dark ages (late 1980s). I've worked in AI, databases/data science, distributed systems, user interaction, and other tech areas until I retired. Since that first AI system, I've created / co-created many AI systems, my last job was CTO at a large tech company with AI products and AI enhanced products, and solutions.

My favorite work period was in the '00s, where I worked for my favorite employer (of the 9-10 companies I worked for over 40 years in the tech industry) I did research and created solutions on distributed, multi-agent systems, mobile intelligent agents, peer-to-peer, genetic algorithms, swarms and swarm intelligence, etc.. This work has seen a recent renewed interest in current agentic AI development.

Every AI system I've worked on reduced/simplified the human skills needed to perform tasks, eliminated the need for humans to perform tasks, or some combination of both. Many AI systems started out as assistants for knowledge/data workers, but over time replaced those workers.

Generative AI (ChatGPT, Copilot, etc.) has made an exponential leap over traditional AI, while building on it; agentic AI is the next step; and the progress is accelerating...and we haven't seen AI + quantum computing though there is active work on it...

Robotics still lags behind AI development, however I expect that to change in the next 10 years, but AI is also being used to create, accelerate and expand robotics technology development.

TL;DR; AI isn't magic, nor is it bullshit; it works, and it will improve, accelerate and will be able to do more and more complex tasks.

For example, one large area is AI's increasing role in work on curing diseases, drug discoveries and development, and more. AI is already surpassing experienced human radiologists, and assisting anesthesiology...only a matter of time before AI makes human anesthesiologists obsolete.
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Why are you this reasonable and well informed when it comes to this stuff, but an absolute jerk on social and political issues?
 
jdel77 said:
Why are you this reasonable and well informed when it comes to this stuff, but an absolute jerk on social and political issues?
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I would surmise he is one of millions who got sick of people who don’t know them at all telling him he was this and that when he was not any of those things and decided to start calling out bullshit every time he saw it…
At first we ignored it, it only made it worse.
So after reaching a point where we are done with that stupid shit, here we are.
And we are never going back
 
the left also misses a major point about Trump.
He has a massive ego and wants to be remembered as the greatest President ever.
If he starts down a road and it's negatively effecting the country he will reverse it or at least veer course.
You can see it with the tariffs starting/stopping. He's a negotiator, leftists who have never worked a real job in their lives can't grasp that concept,
they've never had to do it. We are barely 6 months into his term and look at what he's accomplished so far. Unless you are just a blind partisan or a full blown Commie, how can you not be at least impressed (You may not like it for the listed reasons ). He's got 3 1/2 years to go, if the GOP (which I think is useless) doesn't completely F*ck up and lose seats in the midterms , and the RINOs don't keep fighting him, we're going to see some good corrections in our economy and hopefully all of this woke nonsense will be buried for good.
 
kmanick said:
the left also misses a major point about Trump.
He has a massive ego and wants to be remembered as the greatest President ever.
If he starts down a road and it's negatively effecting the country he will reverse it or at least veer course.
You can see it with the tariffs starting/stopping. He's a negotiator, leftists who have never worked a real job in their lives can't grasp that concept,
they've never had to do it. We are barely 6 months into his term and look at what he's accomplished so far. Unless you are just a blind partisan or a full blown Commie, how can you not be at least impressed (You may not like it for the listed reasons ). He's got 3 1/2 years to go, if the GOP (which I think is useless) doesn't completely F*ck up and lose seats in the midterms , and the RINOs don't keep fighting him, we're going to see some good corrections in our economy and hopefully all of this woke nonsense will be buried for good.
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That's because the left is blinded by hate due to the mind manipulation tactics of the CIA.

They are being told everyday who and why, to be angry about.
 
Geo said:
That's because the left is blinded by hate due to the mind manipulation tactics of the CIA.

They are being told everyday who and why, to be angry about.
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Two minutes hate
 
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kmanick said:
the left also misses a major point about Trump.
He has a massive ego and wants to be remembered as the greatest President ever.
If he starts down a road and it's negatively effecting the country he will reverse it or at least veer course.
You can see it with the tariffs starting/stopping. He's a negotiator, leftists who have never worked a real job in their lives can't grasp that concept,
they've never had to do it. We are barely 6 months into his term and look at what he's accomplished so far. Unless you are just a blind partisan or a full blown Commie, how can you not be at least impressed (You may not like it for the listed reasons ). He's got 3 1/2 years to go, if the GOP (which I think is useless) doesn't completely F*ck up and lose seats in the midterms , and the RINOs don't keep fighting him, we're going to see some good corrections in our economy and hopefully all of this woke nonsense will be buried for good.
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I agree and you are absolutely right about the republicans, never underestimate their willingness to completely screw up what should be a sure thing. I do think they finally have realized that it’s now or never on being willing to fight for what’s best for the country and stop worrying about wether or not the left likes them - they will never like them no matter what they do. You might as well go in and be willing to take the hits and quit giving half a shit what they think, because the rest of us are already there..

Dam the torpedoes, full speed ahead .. 🤘🤘
 
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