How about that stock market!

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Um...... Jeez......

Just pointing out the Woke Demographic in general was crying wolf and frothing at the mouth for a reccesion.


When if you step back, understand what a reccesion means and what qualifies as one given basic Econ 101 and the actual and basic definition of a reccsion you'd understand that such Chinese Communist apologist were nothing more than carnival barkers......

For what? Why wish and egg on a reccesion on the country and on our country we all share......when there wasn't one or it was going to happen?


I can't surmise as to why and I won't call it un-American but I will say it's a petty low level thing to do and well everyone is aware who's on the side of the Communist Chinese for whatever reason and who is on the side of America and the average American.


Furthermore understanding what a reccesion is not only makes one aware if it's happening or not but it also gives you a better gaugue to the actual strenght of the economy and in this case the fundamentals in the American economy have never really been bigger, better or stronger given these factors and considerations.
I'm not arguing with any of that. It just seems like you continually conflate media outlets and a guitar forum as if they're the same thing, which is weird. I totally get conflating CNN/MSNBC/NYTimes - that makes sense to me. Just not the other one.
 
For example as with basic education and maths and logic......

I'm not a bad person nor anyone here is. Not the weird "not Woke" guy from Ohio or whoever from TGP..... nvm the asshats at the New Yorker/MSNBC/CNN/NYTimes.....


But the thing is when those on the left abandon basic logic, reasoning and facts and definitions and the basic and conventional in favor of partisan politics, subjective points of views and ideology vs reality and facts..... maths and science.......


You get a broken education system where kids pass HS yet can't even read or write or do basic maths....... you get a declining standard of living and instead of focusing on making it better those on the left seek to make living harder with policy after policy of the same shit and the same status quo.... you get a garbage America we are all supposed to believe is the best thing on Earth like we have for the last 4 years...... but hey at least we are all Woke no?



You get people knowingly or unknowingly wishing the harm of our country through recession, taking the side of Communist Chinese and a pain upon all and fellow countrymen including themselves for petty political BS and Woke Principles vs basic Common Sense, logic, facts and maths and science and the country.
 
Some good finds! Have you seen the new Xmen 97 cartoon? It was so messed up. Jean got pregnant and had a baby and turned out she was a clone and the real Jean came back and her and Cyclops took the baby and got back together and acted like it was totally normal to take clone Jean's baby.
That was one of comic book plotlines from back in mid 80's. The baby is Nathan Summers AKA Cable.

Really that plot is kinda lightweight compared to some of the other crazier stuff in comics. Spiderman has some truly strange ones, like the Normand Osborn Gwen Stacy affair
 
While I dont agree with it what Powell is saying here is that when push comes to shove if unemployment goes up and/or inflation goes up by a substantial amount.... key word if as none of it is happening right now....he's going to pick inflation and keep interest rates the same or bring them higher at the cost of jobs....... but with deals getting worked out and tax cuts around the corner that's a big if.....


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IMO it's not so much fear mongering and what Powell is doing isn't partisan and it's pretty much what the Fed and he did when inflation went up under Biden. The Fed always goes for a 2% inflation over growth when it comes down to it and this isn't unexpected or anything new.


Furthermore the levels of inflation here are nowhere near or would get to the levels under the Biden administration if any do occur and the level of rate increases if any wouldn't occur either. If anything the Fed probably would keep interest rates the same until after deals get worked out, taxes get worked out and it cools down between the US and China and go from there and keep them the same or lower them.


This isn't necessarily as bad news as they make it out or the markets make it out to be IMO and in 2022 inflation was not only much higher but the Fed had to increase interest rates as well by substantial amounts and many predicted a reccesion then that never came with a much weaker and more volatile economy than this one. The Fed also projected job losses as a result of their higher interest rates and they did increase but not as much as many expected and unemployment remained low relatively speaking.


I'm not saying it's going to be all sunny/blue skies or all clouds/rain either but between here and deals and tax cuts getting worked out and the Feds next move the sky is not going to fall or falling and neither is it after IMO. The economy has been through worse and withheld and flourished and I expect the same here over the course of the next 3 months.


 
This is "man made" and The President is right and IMO this is an overreaction by investors to what the Fed has said.........


As said it isn't like the Fed hasnt been in the same scenario before as in 2022 under the Biden administration. When push came to shove Powell made it clear then as in now his main job is a 2% inflation target even at the cost of jobs...... and the economy kept steaming along and a recession never came with the job market relatively unaffected and at sub 5%.

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And not only did the economy withhold it also flourished despite rate increases or high inflation in 2022...... and much higher rate increases and inflation than tarrifs may cause if any......


Wait for the deals, wait for investment to come in as it has with more to come, wait for the historic tax cuts the President will sign ^_^


 
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Also when we actually look at inflation.... inflation is already lower under Trump and given inflation seems to stay the same or stay relatively low even if increased some the Fed looks to keep rates the same if not lower them based on actual inflation and not consumer sentiment or overreactions by investors........ as said wait for the deals, wait for investment to pour in given the weak dollar and wait for those historic tax cuts the President will sign ^_^



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Who are you talking to?
Not sure but whoever it is I'm talking to seems to be a lot of people with 10,000+ views in this thread regarding the economy/stock market..... you being one of them I guess :dunno:
 
And the Presidents deals are coming....... first up...... The Land of the Rising Sub ^_^



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One positive to take from everything...... from all the bad and the good is this. The VIX or the volatility index went under 30 despite all the BS going on and that shows a resilient economy with strong fundamentals and dropped nearly 3 points and around 10%.........



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So VIX is down but gold is still up....... IMO the prudent and wise would go for a 40% Gold/60% Stocks for those who still want to risk but have some safety......


For those who want more safety but still some risk 66% Gold/33% Stocks.


This is my advice over the next 3 months and adjust with the market.



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The markets were a mixed bag today but with the VIX below 30 and around 30 in general....... things weren't so bad today and things seem to be stabilizing once you look past the noise and carnival barkers........


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Also I don't know what this means exactly or what to call it but there seems to be some nexus or intertwining and interesting things happening with Gold and the DOW/Markets...... it's hard to explain but there were many points Gold was at around 3333.33 for a while and you see the DOW with a previous close of around 39,666.66...........


I don't know if it's good or bad or just a step in the next direction or what to make of it but it seems to be a divergence that isnt diverging to put it simply and a big tug and pull between deflation and inflation happening at the same time pulling back at one another......... high interest rates want to push inflation down but sticky inflation pulls back....... so everything is sort of in limbo.......


And inflation/deflation are pushing and pulling each other back just enough where even if inflation were to rise or lower and offset the balance the Fed is there to check it since it's target is 2% inflation....... and you have Gold and the Markets go up plus the VIX go down not based on fumes as interest rates are high but based on an economy just waiting to go and revving to go like a chained Bull not a Bear.....


And each time a deal gets done or we inch closer to tax cuts that chain grows weaker..... that leash gets a bit more slack and that Bull gets more and more Unchained.
 
Mix the 30ish VIX and sub 30 VIX with signals from the Nikkei...... and this isn't looking so bad especially with more deals to get worked out and Japan being the first of many.



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And the Chinese National Teams financial levees show sign of weakness, cracks and fractures....... even if a little despite market manipulation by the Chinese Communist......



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