How do I Re-amp my Super Lead into another amp?

[Chubtone]

I was just reading another thread another forum and I figured that I have got to try re-amping my Super Lead or my Peacemaker into each other or maybe into the loop of my Quick Rod. What all do I need to do this and how do I do it?

Sorry for the noob question.

 

[Anonymous]

Load box with a line out..

 

[Chubtone]

I have a Hot Plate with a line out. Do I plug that right into the input of another Super Lead? It sounds like crap when I do that.

 

[stephen sawall]

The front or better into the effects return (power amp).

 

[Chubtone]

I think I'm going to try it into the FX return of the Quick Rod.

 

[mentoneman]

i was able to successfully run the peacemaker line out of the HP into the replex and then plug into the front of the coyote for my wet amp and it was van halen, but i think mojaves are pretty unique in being able to plug into the front with that type of line level and not smear...i tried running my friend's herbert line out->replex_.into his marshall tsl 100 input and it was GRIM.
then i tried my coyote (low sensitivity in) and it was perfect.

then we used his fx loop return on the TSL and it was fine, but not as sweet as the coyote..fwiw

just use one of your many amps around the shop with an fx loop in.....the splawn will do!

 

[megamike]

could someone please explain this better,im a retard when it comes to this,and id like to try it out.

here what i have mesa stiletto
mesa tremoverb combo
thd hotplate
g major
avatar 2 12 cab

thanx mike

 

[Gainfreak]

Ok here is the deal. I suppose you were reading this on the metro forum? lol. There is slaving an amp and then there is what they are calling re-amping on the metro forum.
re-amping is not the correct name for it since nowdays re-amping means something else but what can ya do!

Slaving is when you take the line out of one amp and send that signal to an external poweramp or loop of another amp. The METRO re-amping is when you take the o/p of a superlead and slam the front end of another superlead but there is a trick to this.
You don't have to mod the other superlead like dave said but you will need to cut down the signal comming from the main s/l's dumy load otherwise it will sound like shit because the signal is to hot.

Mark Cameron told me years ago that this is what EVH did in the early days. Mark showed me the dummy load that Jose built and it had an o/p level control that had a few resistors on it to pad the signal down.

Ive tried it with my Marshall and used an EQ with an i/p o/p level to lower the signal and it sounded like a superlead but with more gain and balls and hangtime. it wasn't perfect but I thing there is some truth to this possibly being what EVH did. YMMV. The other thing was that in order for it to sound good, i had to keep the bass on 10 on the slave and everything else off. sounds crazy but it works.

Hope this clears up the confusion instead of adding to it lol

 

[MrDan666]

What Ralph said!

Also for what its worth... The Metro Re-Amping method ala early EVH, can be picky about the type of dummyload used. If im not mistaken, Mark Cameron said that a resistor type Dummyload is the way to go, not a reactive load such as an Attenuator (Hotplate, Weber MASS etc).

Again, i also read from Mark Cameron's posts that the EVH re-amping method was done with a transformer type Line-Out using a small 4:1 stepdown transformer being fed off the load resistor, then to a pot which acts as your dummyload output level control.

Its not the same kind of Line-Out that you would get from something like the Suhr ISO lineout which drops the signal down using several resistors.

 

[Chubtone]

Ok here is the deal. I suppose you were reading this on the metro forum? lol.

Yeah, the Metro board. Those guys know their stuff! But, man they are LUNATICS! I spent 30 minutes reading a thread about trying to find a body for an EVH strat build and it was insane. They are talking about countours and radius and forearm cuts and the horns and I'm reading it and realizing I had no idea there was that much of a difference between strat bodies. I mean Ibanez RG, Jackson Soloist, Kramer Pacer or Baretta, and BC Rich Ginslinger are all visibly different than a strat. But those guys were talking Charvel from the mid 70's contours and that none of these other builders had the shape right. Not Warmoth, Fender, Charvel, Musikraft, USACG and a few others I'd never even heard of. Then they show pictures of all these "wrong" strat shapes and for the life of me I had no idea what they were talking about. I'm like, give me something strat shaped and let's be done with it.

As for the tones, the pickups and the amp stuff, everytime I go on that forum I am ready to just start throwing money around.

 

[Gainfreak]

Ok here is the deal. I suppose you were reading this on the metro forum? lol.

Yeah, the Metro board. Those guys know their stuff! But, man they are LUNATICS! I spent 30 minutes reading a thread about trying to find a body for an EVH strat build and it was insane. They are talking about countours and radius and forearm cuts and the horns and I'm reading it and realizing I had no idea there was that much of a difference between strat bodies. I mean Ibanez RG, Jackson Soloist, Kramer Pacer or Baretta, and BC Rich Ginslinger are all visibly different than a strat. But those guys were talking Charvel from the mid 70's contours and that none of these other builders had the shape right. Not Warmoth, Fender, Charvel, Musikraft, USACG and a few others I'd never even heard of. Then they show pictures of all these "wrong" strat shapes and for the life of me I had no idea what they were talking about. I'm like, give me something strat shaped and let's be done with it.

As for the tones, the pickups and the amp stuff, everytime I go on that forum I am ready to just start throwing money around.

Curt!
You are preaching to the choir. I used to think that I was an EVH freak until I went to that forum . Im one tough SOB/critic when it comes to the old Brown sound but I'm nott even in the same ballpark as some of those guys on that forum (and i mean them no disrespect!) lol

What amazes me and I stand firmly with this belief.. EVEN if EVH went to that forum and posted an old outake clip from 78 no one heard ,it is MY belief that most if not all of those guys would argue that there still was something missing from the tone lol
As far as I'm concerned, Mark abrahamiam(sp?) aka Rockstah ownes that tone and evertime I hear his clips.... It's game over for me. The kicker is that even as good as his clips are, there are still guys chasing there tails.

Dan's got the right info as to what you will need

 

[thegame]

What amazes me and I stand firmly with this belief.. EVEN if EVH went to that forum and posted an old outake clip from 78 no one heard ,it is MY belief that most if not all of those guys would argue that there still was something missing from the tone lol

I agree. Those guys want the recorded, produced tone coming out of their guitar speakers. Its my belief that tone, modded amp or no modded amp, was the result of lots of post microphone processing (compression, EQ, reverb, etc). I also think the JBL and Greenback Running with the Devil 1978 clips tell the story. That tone was an amalgamation. A modded amp that nails the recorded tone is likely to sound quite different in person than the actual amp used on the recording IMO !

 

[Digital Jams]

Ok here is the deal. I suppose you were reading this on the metro forum? lol.

Yeah, the Metro board. Those guys know their stuff! But, man they are LUNATICS! I spent 30 minutes reading a thread about trying to find a body for an EVH strat build and it was insane. They are talking about countours and radius and forearm cuts and the horns and I'm reading it and realizing I had no idea there was that much of a difference between strat bodies. I mean Ibanez RG, Jackson Soloist, Kramer Pacer or Baretta, and BC Rich Ginslinger are all visibly different than a strat. But those guys were talking Charvel from the mid 70's contours and that none of these other builders had the shape right. Not Warmoth, Fender, Charvel, Musikraft, USACG and a few others I'd never even heard of. Then they show pictures of all these "wrong" strat shapes and for the life of me I had no idea what they were talking about. I'm like, give me something strat shaped and let's be done with it.

As for the tones, the pickups and the amp stuff, everytime I go on that forum I am ready to just start throwing money around.

Holy shit

Thank god I am not chasing that tone!

 

[Greazygeo]

Holy shit

Thank god I am not chasing that tone!

only a matter of time.......

 

[Digital Jams]

Holy shit

Thank god I am not chasing that tone!

only a matter of time.......

No way, that is the toughest crowd on the internet right there with the dumblites to please I have more pressing matters in regards to playing and tone

 

[goldwing68nv]

Ok here is the deal. I suppose you were reading this on the metro forum? lol.

Yeah, the Metro board. Those guys know their stuff! But, man they are LUNATICS! I spent 30 minutes reading a thread about trying to find a body for an EVH strat build and it was insane. They are talking about countours and radius and forearm cuts and the horns and I'm reading it and realizing I had no idea there was that much of a difference between strat bodies. I mean Ibanez RG, Jackson Soloist, Kramer Pacer or Baretta, and BC Rich Ginslinger are all visibly different than a strat. But those guys were talking Charvel from the mid 70's contours and that none of these other builders had the shape right. Not Warmoth, Fender, Charvel, Musikraft, USACG and a few others I'd never even heard of. Then they show pictures of all these "wrong" strat shapes and for the life of me I had no idea what they were talking about. I'm like, give me something strat shaped and let's be done with it.

As for the tones, the pickups and the amp stuff, everytime I go on that forum I am ready to just start throwing money around.

Curt!
You are preaching to the choir. I used to think that I was an EVH freak until I went to that forum . Im one tough SOB/critic when it comes to the old Brown sound but I'm nott even in the same ballpark as some of those guys on that forum (and i mean them no disrespect!) lol

What amazes me and I stand firmly with this belief.. EVEN if EVH went to that forum and posted an old outake clip from 78 no one heard ,it is MY belief that most if not all of those guys would argue that there still was something missing from the tone lol
As far as I'm concerned, Mark abrahamiam(sp?) aka Rockstah ownes that tone and evertime I hear his clips.... It's game over for me. The kicker is that even as good as his clips are, there are still guys chasing there tails.

Dan's got the right info as to what you will need

+1000 on that,Ralph...Rockstah's clips,on the metroamps forum,is GOD! i can listen to that "tone" all day long and NOT ever get tired.Curt is right,those guys on that forum are INCREDIBLY knowledgeable ...lots o' cool info!!!

 

[Gainfreak]

I obviously agree to what Raplh said, but I was explaining taking a different approach, I believe one of the guys on the Metro forum actually modded an amp to drastically reduce the signal of the 2nd amp.

FWIW, I actually have a load box/attenuator that Mark Cameron made for me and it works just like Ralph said.

I gotcha! I did read where that guy modded the second amp but it seems like more off a pain in the ass then making the load box lol

 

[Greazygeo]

Holy shit

Thank god I am not chasing that tone!

only a matter of time.......

No way, that is the toughest crowd on the internet right there with the dumblites to please I have more pressing matters in regards to playing and tone

...the opening riff to Brown Eyed Girl is a tough one.

 

[Digital Jams]

Holy shit

Thank god I am not chasing that tone!

only a matter of time.......

No way, that is the toughest crowd on the internet right there with the dumblites to please I have more pressing matters in regards to playing and tone

...the opening riff to Brown Eyed Girl is a tough one.

Tell me about it