How the hell did this guy get this tone + sustain? feedback

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Listen to this guys tone and sustain, did he get that from a stock les paul and amp? Listen to the 1:09 mark where the note starts to turn to a harmonic, and again 1:35 where he turns into his amp and gets that feedback. Thats like a god tone and ive been looking for that for 20 years, it really screams man. I realize his guitar is probably a $1000 les paul. Wondering if I can get that with my $900 schecter hellraiser with EMG's81 and 85's if I had a mesa dual rec, cuz my marshall right now isnt cutting it no matter how I tweak it. I love how les pauls sound, i just always felt that playing one feels like playing a block of wood so I would never get one. But that kid gets a sic tone. Its probably his dads but it just seems like he puts no effort into it and the guitar is doing all the work. And I dont mean that negatively, Awesome vid and awesome tone.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV86vHn3 ... 8g&index=1
 
Sounds more like a 'sweet spot' thing than a volume/tone thing.

They bug some people, but it's a spot on the neck where the note you hit will start normal and work into an octave up sound, which can sound like it's feedback. Diggin' into the string with your left hand can really bring it out more.
 
RevDrucifer":2teszvck said:
Sounds more like a 'sweet spot' thing than a volume/tone thing.

They bug some people, but it's a spot on the neck where the note you hit will start normal and work into an octave up sound, which can sound like it's feedback. Diggin' into the string with your left hand can really bring it out more.
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Just might be a dead spot on the neck where the note decays quickly in to feedback.
 
That could have been done with a line 6 modeling amp. Put your guitar 12" from the amp's speaker (s) and you'll get all kinds of sustain and feedback.
 
I didnt think anything special about the tone, could have been line 6 for all I know but I could almsot swear that there was a cocked wah in there somewhere...
 
wasn't impressed with the tone . As far as the sustain It sounds like a blend of natural sustain and feedback sustain to me . I do it all the time with my JMP and my Axcess . I crack the drummer up sometimes by looking at my watch while I hold the note ala Yngwie .
 
oh BTW if your marshall ain't cutting it try the yjm100 or a modded marshall . Don't know what your using but if you like marshall tone your not gonna be happy with a rec.
 
You will only get that type of sustain with a healthy dose of mids dialed on your amp and a decent volume. I get that type of feedback and sustain.
 
I'm pretty sure that perfect feedback is coming from the record, not from that kid's guitar. That said, you need a lot of gain to get that kind of feedback, and rich pickups. It's not easy to just do on command, definitely a case of sitting in the studio and making it happen for that moment. For a Marshall head, like any plexi type, you definitely need to boost it with a good sounding pedal that has some tone control on it. I get smokin results with the OCD. I find that super hot pickups are not as good as vintage (style) ones, which tend to be much richer and clearer. Motor City makes amazing pickups that drip with harmonics.
 
Stone Heavy Sound":l62r6uw3 said:
I'm pretty sure that perfect feedback is coming from the record, not from that kid's guitar. That said, you need a lot of gain to get that kind of feedback, and rich pickups. It's not easy to just do on command, definitely a case of sitting in the studio and making it happen for that moment. For a Marshall head, like any plexi type, you definitely need to boost it with a good sounding pedal that has some tone control on it. I get smokin results with the OCD. I find that super hot pickups are not as good as vintage (style) ones, which tend to be much richer and clearer. Motor City makes amazing pickups that drip with harmonics.
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I love harmonics. I dont usually shred im usually more rhythm, and I have the mode 4 marshall. And I dont like the tone, I want the dual rec sound. Im def sure he didnt have a mesa on that. I hate when people dont list their equipment and fx chains on their youtube channels. And a lot of those guys doing covers usually arent american the ones that do the tributes for like 20 g n r songs.

Like I said I got a schecter hellraiser with emg 81 and 85's, an ibanez s470 with the stock va and v2 plus mid, and a schecter scorpion baritone that harmonics are hard to get out of. I think that has stock duncan pickups
 
it's fairly easy to get that feedback when standing close to the speaker with pickups that have a fair amount of highs and high mids. a marshall type preamp section would be a lot easier to work into feedback than say a rectifier.....because of the way they are voiced.
 
Lots of gain isn't really nessacary for that type of feedback. Volume helps though. It really is the relation between the pickups and the speaker. I got tones of sustaining feeback when I was tracking my bands first disc just by standing next to the monitors in the control room.
 
That guy also uses the half cocked wah and backs off his tone knob (though he never admits it as that is his secret)..just listen to it and you will hear it. With the wah and facing the amp for feedback with no noise gate I am pretty sure most of us could hit that. I used to have a guitar that naturally went into feedback (in a nice way) on two of the strings. Great for leads. I suspect that might be the case here as well. For that tone you need to play with your tone knobs... and add the wah. To be accurate to the original, get the #34 Levi mod in a JCM800 running 6550's and use alnico II's and you'll get there.
 
All in all, kid laid it out pretty fkn well. He obviously spends a lot of time focusing on Slash and the playing thereof, and probably managed to cop the sounds with whatever the hell he could get his hands on. I don't think the tone is extraordinary, but he's got some tricks up his (non tattooed) sleeve and good on him. He'll be getting a lot of tail and playing in decent bands before most of his buddies graduate high school.
 
hmmm... I never have trouble getting that kind of sustain.. I guess it's something that just came to me....
 
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