How the West Brought War to Ukraine

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If you want a concise and fairly accurate report on why Russia decided to invade Ukraine, then pick up Benjamin Abelow’s How the West Brought War to Ukraine: Understanding How U.S. and NATO Policies Led to Crisis, War, and the Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe.

Abelow is a historian and medical doctor, and his sources are highly accessible to scholars and journalists.

The New York Times, the Washington Post, and all the controlled media have been perpetuating the claim that Russia is on a suicidal, genocidal, and diabolical path. Yet none of those news outlets have been able to tell their readers why Russia had enough of NATO and indeed the United States.

Any foreign power that places military forces near U.S. territory knows it is crossing a red line. U.S. policy thus embodies a conviction that where a potential opponent places its forces is crucially important. In fact, this conviction is the cornerstone of American foreign and military policy, and its violation is considered reason for war. Yet when it comes to Russia, the United States and its NATO allies have acted for decades in disregard of this same principle.”

Abelow argues that Russia is following the same line of thinking. Abelow gives one example after another proving or showing that.

“The underlying cause of the war lies not in an unbridled expansionism of Mr. Putin, or in paranoid delusions of military planners in the Kremlin, but in a 30-year history of Western provocations, directed at Russia, that began during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and continued to the start of the war. These provocations placed Russia in an untenable situation, for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. Expanded NATO over a thousand miles eastward, pressing it toward Russia’s borders, in disregard of assurances previously given to Moscow.”

“Be careful what you wish for. Russia has more nuclear weapons than the United States. Russia has more modern weapons than the United States. Russia can level to the ground the United States in 30 minutes. Is this a country in which you wan to create turmoil?


“Moreover, if Mr. Putin were to be overturned, who would take his place? Some little mamby-pamby? Some new drunkard like [first Russian president Boris] Yeltsin? Or somebody who is a Rambo and just ready to push the button?…I think it is extremely imprudent for a country like the United States to invoke regime change in a country like Russia. It’s almost suicidal.”
 
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Convoluted thinking.


NATO exists to *deter* Soviet / Russian / Chinese expansion BECAUSE THOSE COUNTRIES’ AGGRESSIVELY EXPANSIONIST IMPERIAL POLICY ALREADY HAD BEEN DEMONSTRATED before NATO was established

Ukraine is vulnerable *because* it lacks the protection of NATO;
the existence of NATO is not what made Ukraine vulnerable.

Read 20th century history to understand why NATO was, and is, necessary

Is it “fair” that NATO hems in its adversaries?
OF COURSE NOT
it’s not supposed to be “fair”
it’s a god damn containment policy

makes me sick to my stomach to see Americans and people who claim affinity with American values,
caping for our adversaries and parroting Soviet-era propaganda against American interests
 
Convoluted thinking.


NATO exists to *deter* Soviet / Russian / Chinese expansion BECAUSE THOSE COUNTRIES’ AGGRESSIVELY EXPANSIONIST IMPERIAL POLICY ALREADY HAD BEEN DEMONSTRATED before NATO was established

Ukraine is vulnerable *because* it lacks the protection of NATO;
the existence of NATO is not what made Ukraine vulnerable.

Read 20th century history to understand why NATO was, and is, necessary

Is it “fair” that NATO hems in its adversaries?
OF COURSE NOT
it’s not supposed to be “fair”
it’s a god damn containment policy

makes me sick to my stomach to see Americans and people who claim affinity with American values,
caping for our adversaries and parroting Soviet-era propaganda against American interests
Who gave the US the right to control and govern the world................Russia is OVER there and we're OVER here. If what we do to Russia was done to US we'd want war.................fact.

You're 100% brainwashed and dwelling on the past........................all your postings say this. Stop being a hypocrite.

Please.............give it a rest and take it back to the last century where it may have been relevant.
 
Who gave the US the right to control and govern the world................Russia is OVER there and we're OVER here. If what we do to Russia was done to US we'd want war.................fact.

You're 100% brainwashed and dwelling on the past........................all your postings say this. Stop being a hypocrite.

Please.............give it a rest and take it back to the last century where it may have been relevant.
^ Ridiculous statement.

Who gave America the “right” to be the hegemon?

America did. By development and use of economic and military means.

Our adversaries don’t like it. THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE IT.

Geopolitics is not supposed to be “fair” and there are in fact “sides.” I passionately support American geopolitical influence because I am American and I understand history.

I’ll say it again:

IT MAKES ME SICK to see people who claim to value America and American values, denigrating America and supporting our adversaries.
 
^ Ridiculous statement.

Who gave America the “right” to be the hegemon?

America did. By development and use of economic and military means.

Our adversaries don’t like it. THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE IT.

Geopolitics is not supposed to be “fair” and there are in fact “sides.” I passionately support American geopolitical influence because I am American and I understand history.

I’ll say it again:

IT MAKES ME SICK to see people who claim to value America and American values, denigrating America and supporting our adversaries.
Wake up..........we used Euro tech in the 40s to bully the planet...............fact. A despicable act and not moral from ANY angle.
Didn't we lynch others for doing the same thing.

Nothing worse than the UGLY AMERICAN....................no wonder we're hated the world over.
 
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^ Ridiculous statement.

Who gave America the “right” to be the hegemon?

America did. By development and use of economic and military means.

Our adversaries don’t like it. THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE IT.

Geopolitics is not supposed to be “fair” and there are in fact “sides.” I passionately support American geopolitical influence because I am American and I understand history.

I’ll say it again:

IT MAKES ME SICK to see people who claim to value America and American values, denigrating America and supporting our adversaries.

Your adversaries are not on the other side of the earth, Brother?
 
That’s certainly not the only place they are,
but some of them are indeed there.

I would respectfully disagree.
The only adversaries to America have been created and manufactured by (OBiden Amin) America.
You’re smart, you can see what’s really taking place?
 
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Wake up..........we used Euro tech in the 40s to bully the planet...............fact. A despicable act and not moral from ANY angle.
Didn't we lynch others for doing the same thing.

Nothing worse than the UGLY AMERICAN....................no wonder we're hated the world over.
“Bully the planet” is just a pejorative way to say “advance American interests and influence”

I wouldn’t expect non-Americans, especially uneducated non-Americans, to support American hegemony

The notion of “the Ugly American is hated the world over” amounts to nothing in the real world

Geopolitics is a struggle for power and resources, not a popularity contest
 
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“Bully the planet” is just a pejorative way to say “advance American interests and influence”

I wouldn’t expect non-Americans, especially uneducated non-Americans, to support American hegemony

The notion of “the Ugly American is hated the world over” amounts to nothing in the real world

Geopolitics is a struggle for power and resources, not a popularity contest
I hear you but all you're doing is justifying our bullying under the guise of the word Geopolitics. Which really means........lies and bullshit on the world stage.

When others do it we want them out and or killed............when we do it, it's all okay. I don't want to be one of those supporters.

We have enough resources and internal market to be self sufficient................we DO NOT NEED to go outside our space.
 
I hear you but all you're doing is justifying our bullying under the guise of the word Geopolitics. Which really means........lies and bullshit on the world stage.

When others do it we want them out and or killed............when we do it, it's all okay. I don't want to be one of those supporters.

We have enough resources and internal market to be self sufficient................we DO NOT NEED to go outside our space.
“Geopolitics” is not a word designed to obfuscate anything, and it does not principally refer to _verbal_ expressions;

rather, it is just a convenient shorthand for the idea of
“The global struggle amongst various state snd non-state actors, for power and resources”

and so the word encompasses (and is more frequently used to refer to) military and economic activities, as opposed to e.g. speeches and propaganda (though it also contains those things)

Clearly you do not agree with my perspective;
and I understand your perspective, but I vigorously disagree with it
 
I would respectfully disagree.
The only adversaries to America have been created and manufactured by (OBiden Amin) America.
You’re smart, you can see what’s really taking place?
America had no adversaries before Obama?
 
Your adversaries are not on the other side of the earth, Brother?
And we’re coming to get you.

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Convoluted thinking.


NATO exists to *deter* Soviet / Russian / Chinese expansion BECAUSE THOSE COUNTRIES’ AGGRESSIVELY EXPANSIONIST IMPERIAL POLICY ALREADY HAD BEEN DEMONSTRATED before NATO was established

Ukraine is vulnerable *because* it lacks the protection of NATO;
the existence of NATO is not what made Ukraine vulnerable.

Read 20th century history to understand why NATO was, and is, necessary

Is it “fair” that NATO hems in its adversaries?
OF COURSE NOT
it’s not supposed to be “fair”
it’s a god damn containment policy

makes me sick to my stomach to see Americans and people who claim affinity with American values,
caping for our adversaries and parroting Soviet-era propaganda against American interests
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“Bully the planet” is just a pejorative way to say “advance American interests and influence”

I wouldn’t expect non-Americans, especially uneducated non-Americans, to support American hegemony

The notion of “the Ugly American is hated the world over” amounts to nothing in the real world

Geopolitics is a struggle for power and resources, not a popularity contest
Just ask the Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Mongol Empire, or the various Western colonial imperial empires how they're doing today?
 
What’s funny about it? Specifically.
You can't see past your own jingoism, like a majority of Americans.

Your foreign enemies are manufactured by your domestic enemies in your own government, for their own self interests. Even now the USA is supporting actual nazis and ISIS fighters...for example.

Once you see it, if you do, it cannot be unseen; and you will question everything you think you know about American history.

Truth, facts and reality are out there; you may not like what you find. Especially when you realize the USA has instigated, fomented or capitalized on most conflicts around the world since at least 1898.

But don't stop believing what your government tells you without question, and what government schools teach you...

"Are we the baddies?" yes, yes we are.
 
Just ask the Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Mongol Empire, or the various Western colonial imperial empires how they're doing today?
My point exactly.

However, my guess is that the above is meant to contradict my quoted post, so I’ll add:

There is a distinction between the advancement of geopolitical interests, up to and including hegemony,
and imperialism.

Beyond that, on a long enough timescale, nothing lasts.

So, rather than using fallen empires as arguments as to why America should surrender its global interests,

we (Americans and those who support American values) should be looking to those fallen empires for lessons on
*what mistakes to avoid*
when conducting our own affairs,
in order to prolong our existence.

Why?

Because American hegemony creates conditions that are preferable to those that prevailed in its absence.

For evidence, look at pre-WWII global conditions.
 
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You can't see past your own jingoism, like a majority of Americans.

Your foreign enemies are manufactured by your domestic enemies in your own government, for their own self interests. Even now the USA is supporting actual nazis and ISIS fighters...for example.

Once you see it, if you do, it cannot be unseen; and you will question everything you think you know about American history.

Truth, facts and reality are out there; you may not like what you find. Especially when you realize the USA has instigated, fomented or capitalized on most conflicts around the world since at least 1898.

But don't stop believing what your government tells you without question, and what government schools teach you...

"Are we the baddies?" yes, yes we are.
Genuine, non-judgmental question:

Are you American?
 

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