Hows this look for my rig?

[Juggernaut]

Planning on adding somethings to my rig.....

RJM RG-16
TCE G-Major
Eventide MODFactor
Eventide TimeFactor
Voodoo Labs Ground Control Pro

Here's a diagram of how the signal path and MIDI should run..... anyone see any errors?

 

[stephen sawall]

 

[steve_k]

Nice.....

Now how did you do that?

Steve

 

[Juggernaut]

how'd I do what? the drawing?

added the ISP here....

 

[glpg80]

whats the difference between out/no and send/nc?

 

[Juggernaut]

from the manual:

Send/NC (5 through 8) – Connect your effects inputs here. When the corresponding loop is on, audio signal will
be output at this jack. When the corresponding loop is off, this jack is grounded and no signal is output. (NOTE: This jack
can also be used as a Normally Closed function switch.)


Output/NO (5 through 8) – Signal output from the corresponding audio loop. (NOTE: this jack can also be used
as a Normally Open function switch.)

 

[stefvorcide]

you don't have two in and out for the ISP? like between your guitar and amp and in the loop ?

 

[glpg80]

from the manual:

Send/NC (5 through 8) – Connect your effects inputs here. When the corresponding loop is on, audio signal will
be output at this jack. When the corresponding loop is off, this jack is grounded and no signal is output. (NOTE: This jack
can also be used as a Normally Closed function switch.)


Output/NO (5 through 8) – Signal output from the corresponding audio loop. (NOTE: this jack can also be used
as a Normally Open function switch.)

thanks mike

are you going to be using the g-major's recall functions in conjunction with the RG-16? because IMHO dude if you are, by the looks of how you have it wired, i would strongly 99% suggest upgrading to the gm-II. the reason is that there is a huge lag time in recall functions, either from a different bank, or switching effects blocks. they have 128 user programmable slots and 128 factory.

if you use the g-major as a setit/forget it unit and switch it off/on then you wont have a problem at all, but dude its all of abour 1.5 seconds gap before it switches and everything is going again 100%. closer to 1 second gap at much lower volumes.

i had one for 4 years, that was a HUGE letdown, the other part is having to watch the level controls internally and externally on each bank's effect control and also the dB control for each effect too.

just my .02 man. i'd hate for you to spend that much on such an awsome controller and the g-major be the weak point here in this design. i really would recommend looking for a used gm-II.

effects quality wise, i LOVED the tones of the g-major, that isnt the problem. but the other stuff i mentioned are the letdowns, im sure others g-major owners here can agree.

i was using a rocktron midimate to control the g-major if its worth mentioning

-matt

 

[Juggernaut]

still out on the ISP, deciding if I'm gonna use the pedal or bite the bullet and get the rack.... if I use only the pedal, I'll use it in the RG-16 to run in the loop of the amps....


still have alot of deciding to do on this, and I'm just getting started, the only things that are set in stone (so to speak) are the Eventide Pedals, and RG-16.

 

[Juggernaut]

from the manual:

Send/NC (5 through 8) – Connect your effects inputs here. When the corresponding loop is on, audio signal will
be output at this jack. When the corresponding loop is off, this jack is grounded and no signal is output. (NOTE: This jack
can also be used as a Normally Closed function switch.)


Output/NO (5 through 8) – Signal output from the corresponding audio loop. (NOTE: this jack can also be used
as a Normally Open function switch.)

thanks mike

are you going to be using the g-major's recall functions in conjunction with the RG-16? because IMHO dude if you are, by the looks of how you have it wired, i would strongly 99% suggest upgrading to the gm-II. the reason is that there is a huge lag time in recall functions, either from a different bank, or switching effects blocks. they have 128 user programmable slots and 128 factory.

if you use the g-major as a setit/forget it unit and switch it off/on then you wont have a problem at all, but dude its all of abour 1.5 seconds gap before it switches and everything is going again 100%. closer to 1 second gap at much lower volumes.

i had one for 4 years, that was a HUGE letdown, the other part is having to watch the level controls internally and externally on each bank's effect control and also the dB control for each effect too.

just my .02 man. i'd hate for you to spend that much on such an awsome controller and the g-major be the weak point here in this design. i really would recommend looking for a used gm-II.

effects quality wise, i LOVED the tones of the g-major, that isnt the problem. but the other stuff i mentioned are the letdowns, im sure others g-major owners here can agree.

i was using a rocktron midimate to control the g-major if its worth mentioning

-matt

I may just delete the GM altogether, and add the pitchfactor, ISP prorack, and a tuner, and call it good from there...... like I said, jury is still out on all the components except a couple.

 

[glpg80]

if you havent already, check out my review on the rack mounted ISP with the stereo mod.

you have to plug your guitar into the plugin for it to track better, thats what the mod does. so you would have to modify the signal chain just a small bit to work with it correctly. but thats not a problem at all.

yeah unless you really "need" all of those effects in one unit, that would be the smarter decision bro. having all of those eventide units at your disposal, with the RG-16, i cant imagine how awsome that would sound

what are you using for patch cables?

 

[Juggernaut]

Gonna try and pickup some Evidence Audio cable and neutrik connectors... or Redco cable.

build 'em myself.

keep the suggestions coming guys.....

Like I said, I'm just getting started on this, so I wanna do it right. wanna make Friedman proud.

 

[glpg80]

Gonna try and pickup some Evidence Audio cable and neutrik connectors... or Redco cable.

build 'em myself.

keep the suggestions coming guys.....

Like I said, I'm just getting started on this, so I wanna do it right. wanna make Friedman proud.

havent heard much about evidence cables, i know redco is good stuff though. you hear that name around this forum alot.

with those changes i believe you might have something going, just make sure you play a few of the eventide units to see if their signature tone is what you like. they arent my cup of tea

 

[stefvorcide]

wanna make Friedman proud.

Maybe he will hire you after

 

[Juggernaut]

Made some changes..... what do ya think?

 

[Juggernaut]

or..... how about this

need to double check the wiring on this one, had to kinda shuffle around, any of you experts see an error let me know.

 

[MARK1970]

Pretty cool. Make sure you keep the loop open at all times for your Timefactor. You can control turning it on and off via midi. If not, you will cut the tail end of your delay fx. I have mine in the loop via a Suhr mini mix.


OD100Se+ > Surh mini mix in > mini mix out > return on OD100se+


From the mini mix Send > RG-16 In7 > send 7/NC >Time Factor > to mini mix
This is for using it in the loop, but the way I have it set up is when the relay is turned off for 7, the delay tail off will continue. Go with a Mastermind. When you fanally decide, contact Ron with your diagram and he will comment fro improvement or give you a thubs up. I have a diagram of mine. I will post it later.

 

[muudrock]

Don't forget you need a cable jumper from the output after loop 4 into loop 5 if you're gonna feed your amps via the RG16. Loops 1-4 are internally wired in series, but 5-8 are independent and need signal from somewhere. Just an FYI.

 

[Random Hero]

Is this rig for gigging? Or jamming at home?

 

[Juggernaut]

gigging & rehearsal.....