Humidity and Wizard necks = FAIL!!!!!!!!!!

[Digital Jams]

Played yesterday with the jam band for 2 1/2 hours and my guitar at the end was unplayable due to the humidity and sweat as the neck was just moving everywhere

Anyone else have a guitar go so far south while playing???? Freaking blows that is for sure.

 

[PeteLaramee]

hmm...I've never had that problem. What do you mean the neck was "moving everywhere?"

 

[stratotone]

I used to be a huge Ibanez wizard neck guy - had 6 of em at one time.

5 went south - they warped and wouldn't come back. I'm not as worried about it now - if I buy one used I check the neck out, and wood gets stronger as it gets older. I had most of my issues back in the early 90s, and the band I was in did several outdoors gigs.

I'm betting that neck was the one without the big 'skunk stripe' on the back, right? If you really dig these guitars, look for the AANJ/skunk stripe necks, they are quite a bit more stable. For the extra $, the Vai necks were stiffer IMHO - I never had to adjust the neck on my JemFP. I think it was quartersawn and the standard wizards flatsawn. Could be wrong though... I'm going by memory on the Jem. It was noticeably stiffer though.

Pete

 

[Digital Jams]

Started with great action, moved to buzzing on the lower frets, after beer break action was a little better, and finished with fretting out around 12-14th frets during bends

We were playing in a garage with the temp being around 90 and 90% humidity. Never seen this before either, not this bad.

 

[Digital Jams]

I used to be a huge Ibanez wizard neck guy - had 6 of em at one time.

5 went south - they warped and wouldn't come back. I'm not as worried about it now - if I buy one used I check the neck out, and wood gets stronger as it gets older. I had most of my issues back in the early 90s, and the band I was in did several outdoors gigs.

I'm betting that neck was the one without the big 'skunk stripe' on the back, right? If you really dig these guitars, look for the AANJ/skunk stripe necks, they are quite a bit more stable. For the extra $, the Vai necks were stiffer IMHO - I never had to adjust the neck on my JemFP. I think it was quartersawn and the standard wizards flatsawn. Could be wrong though... I'm going by memory on the Jem. It was noticeably stiffer though.

Pete

It was my 550 Re-issue with the extra rods believe it or not! 5 piece neck which is why I am surprised this happened I have a 565 with no skunk stripe that is rock solid, I think it is just the grain being very straight that gives it some extra stability.

 

[Code001]

Oh wow. That's pretty surprising to hear it's the new 550 neck. Did it have a finish on the back?

 

[PeteLaramee]

Sorry bro - if there's no air conditioning there's no jam as far as I'm concerned so I've never had that problem. I haven't played an outdoor gig since '89 and I'll probably never play another one.

 

[stratotone]

Bring a truss rod tool for your guitars, if you're going to be right on the edge of playability (I know I sure am on my guitars!) then a little movement either way can cause some craziness.

At gigs I try to minimize this by making sure my guitars come out and are set up and tuned before I set up my rig - this gives em more time to acclimate.

Pete

 

[Digital Jams]

Oh wow. That's pretty surprising to hear it's the new 550 neck. Did it have a finish on the back?

Believe it or not I have not striped the finish off that neck

 

[Digital Jams]

Sorry bro - if there's no air conditioning there's no jam as far as I'm concerned so I've never had that problem. I haven't played an outdoor gig since '89 and I'll probably never play another one.

We are usually in the basement but the drummer had his carpets cleaned and they were wet so out to the garage we went, we have not played in about 3 weeks so we decided to do it.

I had to ring out my guitar strap at the end

 

[Digital Jams]

Bring a truss rod tool for your guitars, if you're going to be right on the edge of playability (I know I sure am on my guitars!) then a little movement either way can cause some craziness.

At gigs I try to minimize this by making sure my guitars come out and are set up and tuned before I set up my rig - this gives em more time to acclimate.

Pete

That was the thing, I had the action slammed so any movement I knew it. Next time if we play outside I am just going to bring the Hamer.

 

[Gainfreak]

There will always be some guitars that cannot handle the humidity and others that just seem to suck it up and work even in the crapiest of weather. With that said, id never play any of my guitars in a humid climate anymore because its not really good for the guitar even if the guitar can handle it. Id recommend that you guys book some studio time in an airconditioned studio brother and ditch the garage jams!!

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Played yesterday with the jam band for 2 1/2 hours and my guitar at the end was unplayable due to the humidity and sweat as the neck was just moving everywhere

Anyone else have a guitar go so far south while playing???? Freaking blows that is for sure.

I'm not sure if my 1077XL has a wizard neck, but it's been holding steady in the basement now that the Summer has gotten in full swing...haven't taken it out of the basement in quite awhile though

 

[Code001]

Played yesterday with the jam band for 2 1/2 hours and my guitar at the end was unplayable due to the humidity and sweat as the neck was just moving everywhere

Anyone else have a guitar go so far south while playing???? Freaking blows that is for sure.

I'm not sure if my 1077XL has a wizard neck, but it's been holding steady in the basement now that the Summer has gotten in full swing...haven't taken it out of the basement in quite awhile though

Wizard-7 XL

 

[Digital Jams]

There will always be some guitars that cannot handle the humidity and others that just seem to suck it up and work even in the crapiest of weather. With that said, id never play any of my guitars in a humid climate anymore because its not really good for the guitar even if the guitar can handle it. Id recommend that you guys book some studio time in an airconditioned studio brother and ditch the garage jams!!

I am hoping the garage was a one time deal bro but that said you know I was not going to say no to jamming!!!!!! Our drummer now works in NYC during the week so our jams have been cut down so I loaded the Yukon with two 4x12s and the VHT / Lexicon for some w/d tone

HAve to get some when you can

 

[Digital Jams]

Played yesterday with the jam band for 2 1/2 hours and my guitar at the end was unplayable due to the humidity and sweat as the neck was just moving everywhere

Anyone else have a guitar go so far south while playing???? Freaking blows that is for sure.

I'm not sure if my 1077XL has a wizard neck, but it's been holding steady in the basement now that the Summer has gotten in full swing...haven't taken it out of the basement in quite awhile though

My guitars are in the basement as well and they hold well, even the raw necks.

It took me an hour to clean that guitar, I should have taken a picture of it after the jam

 

[Gainfreak]

I am hoping the garage was a one time deal bro but that said you know I was not going to say no to jamming!!!!!! Our drummer now works in NYC during the week so our jams have been cut down so I loaded the Yukon with two 4x12s and the VHT / Lexicon for some w/d tone

HAve to get some when you can

 

[tweed]

Don't be a pussy, raise your action!!

 

[tweed]

sweet!! double post

 

[Copperhead]

Did tightening the truss rod not help at all? I've seen temperatures climb while playing a gig, and usually the first indicator is that I start to go a little flat. With the Wolfgangs I keep the little pin wrench dealio handy, and a just like 1/8 to 1/6 turn usually brinks the relief back flat and sharpens the guitar tune overall. Check the relief in between songs or whatever, if it starts getting a little large, just crank the truss rod nut a little......Opposite is true when playing outside in colder climes and the sun goes down, and the wind starts blowing and it gets coooold....loosen the nut a little.