I got SLO gas...

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War Admiral":2h6fjx8x said:
Super informative! Thanks fuzzy! I got my Modena up for a trade here and 4 other forums for a SLO...I'll see what happens. I think I really want one now. If not I'll just outright buy one and I think I got the perfect cab for it too...2 G12H-30's and 2 Greenies. Thanks bud! :thumbsup:


That is a good speaker combo. I have been using those in a few Bogner 2x12s with the SLO. Tuesday I am getting 2 Bogner cubes loaded with EVM12L Black Labels. Will be interesting to hear those with the SLO. I have high hopes, I like EVMs.


jcj":2h6fjx8x said:
The SLO is one of my top 5, for sure.

However...if you're not in a position to play at high/stage volumes, don't bother.

That goes for pretty much every tube amp I've owned.

I'd have too agree with that. You could get great tones at moderate levels with tube amps, but to realize the full potential of most they like to be up. SLO, Wizard, Bogner Marshall,etc. One of the best Classic Rock tones I ever heard was a Dr Z 18 dimed. Damn it was loud though. :rock: :rock:
 
Jdub":1hnufg8e said:
mentoneman":1hnufg8e said:
they sound good at apache war cry scalping your family volumes

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tsup bro Pat? Epic Winter for Surfing, been getting wet?


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stratotone":13e5q3yb said:
5150 III isn't anywhere near the parts or build quality of an SLO. You get what you pay for.

Plus the SLO has a lifetime transferable warranty. I'd take an SLO every time over a 5150 III.

Pete

This is such crap. Understandable you prefer the SLO over the 5150III, I do too. To say that simply cause it has better parts makes it a better amp is dumb. Sound is sound whether it's good or not. We all know 5150's are not made of superior quality parts and I've been using mine (it's my only amp) for the last 12 years with not a single problem. It's been dropped/frozen/thawed/spilled on over the years and works just fine.

Cause you pay $3k for an amp doesn't make it sound better or always work better than a $1500 amp.
 
You're right, just because you spend more doesn't always mean it's worth it. In this case though, the SLO shits over the entire 5150 family, price be damned.

5150 III at first launch was an unreliable POS made in mexico. A guy on the JCF had THREE that failed immediately out of the box. Other folks didn't have much better luck either... maybe they got their act together, but $2k for a made in mexico hand grenade or a few hundred more (used, but with lifetime warranty) for an SLO is an incredibly easy choice. This is of course if you want a warranty on both of your purchases.

BTW, you've had your 5150 III for 12 years, or one of those Peavey 5150 SLO ripoffs that do chainsaw tone exclusively? If I want a classic hard rock/metal tone from the 80s and beyond, I'd choose an SLO. If I wanted to rape people's eardrums, I'd buy a 5150.

Just curious, have you even owned an SLO and a 5150? I've owned both, SLO is still here, my 5150 was sold to a dude in some band where the singer sounded like a cartoon monster. I'd rather have kept the cheaper amp, more money for other gear. But it's hard to keep an amp that just doesn't sound as good as the real thing it was a copy of.

Pete

5150GSX":rhubi8xa said:
stratotone":rhubi8xa said:
5150 III isn't anywhere near the parts or build quality of an SLO. You get what you pay for.

Plus the SLO has a lifetime transferable warranty. I'd take an SLO every time over a 5150 III.

Pete

This is such crap. Understandable you prefer the SLO over the 5150III, I do too. To say that simply cause it has better parts makes it a better amp is dumb. Sound is sound whether it's good or not. We all know 5150's are not made of superior quality parts and I've been using mine (it's my only amp) for the last 12 years with not a single problem. It's been dropped/frozen/thawed/spilled on over the years and works just fine.

Cause you pay $3k for an amp doesn't make it sound better or always work better than a $1500 amp.
 
rape someones eardrums? shits all over the entire 5150 family?

each amplifier has its place bro - you dont hear me talking trash about anything you have or use do you?

either you hate 5150's - or love them. ive said this a few times i believe - ive played some 5150's that are worth nothing more than to be thrown in a trashcan right out of the box the tone was so terrible. and ive played a few that the tone sticks in your head for months.

the SLO that i played was fucking awsome at louder volumes. but is it worth it to me? id say no - but it wouldnt matter what i say because i own a 5150 anyway. i didnt like the SLO for a few reasons - mainly because it was too much of one character that i hated about the 5150's (needing to be cranked to sound its best). it seemed like the same one trick pony. the only difference i saw was the price. and actually someone ordered that SLO - played it - and it sat in the store because whoever ordered it didnt like it either.

but if you are going to turn it into a 5150 versus SLO topic, at least 5150's have a working tube buffered effects loop and an a decent depth/presence control - the effects loop issue is one of the most lacking components as mentioned in the topic for the SLO. you'd think for $2,300 that would have been fixed by now - its not complicated?

SLO's are great for classic rock and depending on the setup you have - can do somewhat heavier material as well. but at low volumes - its just not happening.

5150 III's are an entirely different ballpark - im not comparing price, quality, functions, options, im just expressing what i heard, felt, and saw at simillar volumes - amplifier versus amplifier. judge what you want out of each of them - the final tone is all i care about. and at lower volumes, the 5150 III did it better and was easier to play. if pretty circuit boards and lifetime warranties are part of your tone then thats cool - its not my concern nor other 5150 owners either from what i can tell.

the last major reason that i disliked the SLO is that i believe a 5150 combo shits all over a SLO 100 - tone for tone brick for brick ounce to ounce. and yes i am saying this will all honesty. ill even say the speakers were G12H30 copies. i could care less if little mexicans are making the sound out of any amplifier with bongo's - what comes out of the speaker cabinet is what i listen to. maybe you owned a bad model 5150 which is what you are judging your opinion off of, but i can guarantee that if each SLO is built so prestinely, then the tone from one to another doesnt differ. and i can also guarantee ive played more 5150's than i care to count. to play the real SLO 100 was awsome but at the same time a major let down. i think its unfair for you to pass such judgement and give such an amplifier a bad wrap for no reason other than you owned both.

and the chainsaw character you mentioned? hell a SLO did it better than any 5150 ive ever played only cleaner. and at 4 times the price.
 
Yup. A 5150 is a metal machine. One trick pony. It does it well, but it's a fucking chainsaw. I owned two block letter heads. They are harsher sounding than an SLO, for some music that may be preferable. I haven't seen too many blues or classic rock guys embrace the 5150, it seems like 99% of the users are hardcore metal dudes. Nothing wrong with that, but it just reinforces my opinion that they aren't very versatile.

I've owned an SLO. Gigged with it. OWNED a 5150. Gigged with it. The SLO has a lot more tones in it.

When I gigged my 5150s (I owned two block letters, one had phillips tubes still in it) it was fine for metal, but very harsh sounding. The SLO isn't exactly smooth like my bogner but it's nowhere near as grating as the 5150 was.

If the final tone is all your opinion is based on, it's a limited one at best. I like gear that is going to be reliable, built well, and hold it's value. And for my money, the SLO shits, pisses and decapitates a 5150 in every way, including tone.

It's my opinion only, but my opinion is based on playing guitar for over 25 years in studios and live, and owning a shit-ton of gear. You and I obviously disagree on tones.

So what's your opinion based on, google skillz? Didn't mean to make you butthurt on your 5150.

Pete

glpg80":14rpjswa said:
rape someones eardrums? shits all over the entire 5150 family?

each amplifier has its place bro - you dont hear me talking trash about anything you have or use do you?

either you hate 5150's - or love them. ive said this a few times i believe - ive played some 5150's that are worth nothing more than to be thrown in a trashcan right out of the box the tone was so terrible. and ive played a few that the tone sticks in your head for months.

the SLO that i played was fucking awsome at louder volumes. but is it worth it to me? id say no - but it wouldnt matter what i say because i own a 5150 anyway. i didnt like the SLO for a few reasons - mainly because it was too much of one character that i hated about the 5150's (needing to be cranked to sound its best). it seemed like the same one trick pony. the only difference i saw was the price. and actually someone ordered that SLO - played it - and it sat in the store because whoever ordered it didnt like it either.

but if you are going to turn it into a 5150 versus SLO topic, at least 5150's have a working tube buffered effects loop and an a decent depth/presence control - the effects loop issue is one of the most lacking components as mentioned in the topic for the SLO. you'd think for $2,300 that would have been fixed by now - its not complicated?

SLO's are great for classic rock and depending on the setup you have - can do somewhat heavier material as well. but at low volumes - its just not happening.

5150 III's are an entirely different ballpark - im not comparing price, quality, functions, options, im just expressing what i heard, felt, and saw at simillar volumes - amplifier versus amplifier. judge what you want out of each of them - the final tone is all i care about. and at lower volumes, the 5150 III did it better and was easier to play. if pretty circuit boards and lifetime warranties are part of your tone then thats cool - its not my concern nor other 5150 owners either from what i can tell.

the last major reason that i disliked the SLO is that i believe a 5150 combo shits all over a SLO 100 - tone for tone brick for brick ounce to ounce. and yes i am saying this will all honesty. ill even say the speakers were G12H30 copies. i could care less if little mexicans are making the sound out of any amplifier with bongo's - what comes out of the speaker cabinet is what i listen to. maybe you owned a bad model 5150 which is what you are judging your opinion off of, but i can guarantee that if each SLO is built so prestinely, then the tone from one to another doesnt differ. and i can also guarantee ive played more 5150's than i care to count. to play the real SLO 100 was awsome but at the same time a major let down. i think its unfair for you to pass such judgement and give such an amplifier a bad wrap for no reason other than you owned both.

and the chainsaw character you mentioned? hell a SLO did it better than any 5150 ive ever played only cleaner. and at 4 times the price.
 
Well I happen to own a block logo 5150 as well

Guess what

I love it too.

I don't really think it sounds like my slo though.

I had a bias mod done on mine and that really opened up the amp.

the 5150 is my amp of choice with active pickups. It is the sound on a lot of the records that I now listen to. Trivium . All that remains. Etc.
 
My SLO sounds fine at low volumes especially using an intellifex in the loop messing with its levels.
Having owned a SLO and block letter 5150 at the same time. SLO all the way. :rock:
 
I owned a 5150 combo for about 3 years. Liked the tone, but I never jived with the lead channel. It was great for rhythm, but just mehh for leads - not liquid in any way.

I have played a Soldano SLO on two occasions. I would describe the first one as a "learning experience." I "learned" that - even though the 5150 was based on the SLO - the SLO is, IMO, the greatest high gain head in the history of amps BAR NONE. It was everything I wanted the 5150 to be; less harsh, more useable gain, just tonally bigger and better, etc.

The second time I had my brother-in-law with me and we found one at GC. I said "watch this..." and hit three chords on the lead channel. I think his crap stain is still on the floor. :rock:
 
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.
 
hunter":2pp0tb1p said:
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.


Use pro gear, and the loop is great.
 
Shark Diver":39xeldos said:
hunter":39xeldos said:
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.


Use pro gear, and the loop is great.

It could be better if it was moved... but one thing I admire about the SLO is that it's pretty much the same amp as it was in the 80s... Kinda like you could technically 'improve' a marshall plexi, but then it wouldn't really be the same thing with a master volume, fx loop, etc...

I actually ran a *gasp* Line6 M13 with the four cable method into my SLO and while it wasn't pristine, it worked fine for a gig.

Pete
 
Shark Diver":3sq2l2oy said:
hunter":3sq2l2oy said:
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.


Use pro gear, and the loop is great.
Whaaaaat?!?!?!?!?!? Use pro gear with a pro amp, that's just crazy!!!! Who wouldn't want to use their $20 delay pedal with their $3000 amp?!?!?!?!? :lol: :LOL:
 
stratotone":25990v75 said:
Shark Diver":25990v75 said:
hunter":25990v75 said:
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.


Use pro gear, and the loop is great.

It could be better if it was moved... but one thing I admire about the SLO is that it's pretty much the same amp as it was in the 80s... Kinda like you could technically 'improve' a marshall plexi, but then it wouldn't really be the same thing with a master volume, fx loop, etc...

I actually ran a *gasp* Line6 M13 with the four cable method into my SLO and while it wasn't pristine, it worked fine for a gig.

Pete
I heard studio engineers say they love it when people walk in with the SLO in their hands. They all sound almost exactly the same, and in a good way which makes it easy to get a great sound recorded.
 
Death by Uberschall":2ewuy5kv said:
stratotone":2ewuy5kv said:
Shark Diver":2ewuy5kv said:
hunter":2ewuy5kv said:
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.


Use pro gear, and the loop is great.

It could be better if it was moved... but one thing I admire about the SLO is that it's pretty much the same amp as it was in the 80s... Kinda like you could technically 'improve' a marshall plexi, but then it wouldn't really be the same thing with a master volume, fx loop, etc...

I actually ran a *gasp* Line6 M13 with the four cable method into my SLO and while it wasn't pristine, it worked fine for a gig.

Pete
I heard studio engineers say they love it when people walk in with the SLO in their hands. They all sound almost exactly the same, and in a good way which makes it easy to get a great sound recorded.

I heard they say "Wow, that overpriced POS? Quick, call a Peavey dealer, there should be one within 50 yards, they are everywhere. Get me a 6105 or 5150 or whatever, now! We need harsh chainsaw tones stat! Get that 3d complex-toned SLO the hell out of here!"

Pete
 
SLO = Best lead channel available IMO, the loop sucks with any kind of gear unmodded (or unbypassed - bypassed loop: sounds even cooler). I'd also get one with a depth mod.

@ hunter: try a JCA100H, it has room for mods in its back :D
 
stratotone":2ijcsnwp said:
Death by Uberschall":2ijcsnwp said:
stratotone":2ijcsnwp said:
Shark Diver":2ijcsnwp said:
hunter":2ijcsnwp said:
I would also love to get one. But then in Europe they're 3,700€ new (5,000$) and I would be worried about the quality of the loop. I hate to have an amp where I totally love the sound without the loop and always be shitting myself about tone loss when I have to use it.


Use pro gear, and the loop is great.

It could be better if it was moved... but one thing I admire about the SLO is that it's pretty much the same amp as it was in the 80s... Kinda like you could technically 'improve' a marshall plexi, but then it wouldn't really be the same thing with a master volume, fx loop, etc...

I actually ran a *gasp* Line6 M13 with the four cable method into my SLO and while it wasn't pristine, it worked fine for a gig.

Pete
I heard studio engineers say they love it when people walk in with the SLO in their hands. They all sound almost exactly the same, and in a good way which makes it easy to get a great sound recorded.

I heard they say "Wow, that overpriced POS? Quick, call a Peavey dealer, there should be one within 50 yards, they are everywhere. Get me a 6105 or 5150 or whatever, now! We need harsh chainsaw tones stat! Get that 3d complex-toned SLO the hell out of here!"

Pete
:lol: :LOL:
 
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